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[QUOTE="mandkole, post: 1343745, member: 4630"] For a street driven truck up to 500 or so HP (or real heavy tow), there are lots of good local builders for a 4R, you just have to look. You don't even have to slather billet all over it either--my trans does not have one billet piece except for the converter cover. The 4R has been scienced out by many and the tricks are well known to meet most applications. I said this in my earlier trans threads, I want a local builder for a trans. My refreshed trans works exactly the same as it did when BTS built it, but don't have the converter issues. [/QUOTE]
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