Yes I've Sold Both, Installed Both, Ridden Both....I continue to sell the ones mentioned 9 out of 10 times for many reasons. I wouldn't honestly say that comparable PMF/Icon/Fox setup rides any better or worse than the same Carli/Fox setup. Both ride well and are top of the line components. In my world though, customers want a product they can get quickly. I can almost always get my hands on Fox Shocks and Icon Springs in a day or two, or ship them out right away. PMF stuff (basic) is usually able to ship in about the same time or I keep some of the PMF stuff in stock at my shop. So when turnaround time is important its a hands down winner in my book.