Oil Cooler decision.....

sickslow · Dec 26, 2011

I am trying to decide if I should go in for an oil cooler or not. The reason that I am trying to decide right now is because I just got a coolant filter and an egr delete and I know after I put these on the chances of getting the oil cooler replaced under warranty is slim. I wish i could run the coolant filter for awhile before a new oil cooler so that the new one has no chance of clogging but I want to get this egr delete on as soon as possible so its either all of it now or get a new cooler (if they will warranty it) then put on the parts.

My temps cruising around 55mph are only about a 9 degree spread. When Im running around 75mph the temps will fluctuate from 13 to 16 degrees different (EOT>ECT). The one thing that confuses me about this is that the oil never gets hot so it seems odd to get a new cooler. An average interstate reading would be ECT 180 EOT 194.....so the spread is 14 but its still pretty cool....maybe my thermostat is sticking a little? The faster average speed im running the greater the spread. When in town with the occasional red lights I only see about a 7 degree spread. I know one of the main concern of a clogging oil cooler is that it starves the EGR cooler of coolant causing it to rupture. According to that wouldnt it be ok to delete the EGR (removing cooler failure risk) and leave this cooler in? Is it wishful thinking to get rid of that risk and bet on the coolant filter keeping the oil cooler at its current state for a couple more years? I plan on doing studs this summer or next summer and I would replace the cooler then on my own dime but by that point the filter would have the coolant passages in much better shape.......If only ford would see that im trying to help my truck and not hurt it....lol

Also what is the chance that if I took it in to the dealership that they would replace the cooler. Sometimes it takes 15 minutes of time cruising the interstate to reach close to a 15 degree gap and usually it will hit 15 and fall back to 14 or 13 within a minute. I don't want them to say some dealership bs like "your monitor is not as accurate as your factory temp gauge and as long as its not hot your fine" I think we all know here that the factory gauge is useless.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

TxFireman1972 · Dec 26, 2011

If you have to tear it down far enough to do the EGR delete, you might as well do the extra work and change the oil cooler out. Plus the cooler itself is under $250. The added peace of mind is worth it!!!

sickslow · Dec 26, 2011

where can I get a cooler that cheap??

TxFireman1972 · Dec 26, 2011

Bought mine from www.tousleyfordparts.com/ for $213.84.

Part number is 3C3Z-6A642-CA

davey99ps · Dec 26, 2011

Yea I just did a sinister egr delete an new oil cooler an everything together was $600

sickslow · Dec 26, 2011

thanks!

sickslow · Dec 26, 2011

To do the cooler I need new intake manifold gaskets wouldnt I?

Mdub707 · Dec 27, 2011

They say they are reusable, but I wouldn't dig in there and not replace them for how cheap they are.

Zmann · Dec 27, 2011

with those temp spreads you probably wouldn't get the dealer to do the cooler
even if they did it would cost you the $100

I fought hard to get mine done and even brought data log files and pictures

they still denied me two times until they realized I was just going to come back every day until it was covered lol

like stated I wouldn't mess with the dealer since your going to be there anyway

sickslow · Dec 27, 2011

Zmann thats what i was afraid of.

TxFireman1972 i cant find that oil cooler that cheap. The one im seeing on there is around $375

windrunner408 · Dec 27, 2011

You usually have to call them to get the price. I am not sure if you are going to try to get the dealer to install this or not but IMO what wouldnt be a bad idea is if you installed the coolant filter and ran it for a little while like you wanted to and then take it off. It can be removed rather painlessly IMO, then you could take it to the dealer for them to do the work if they agree to.

If you decide to do it outside of the dealer, I would still do the oil cooler if you install the egr delete, because as it was already mentioned; it is SO much better to do the whole job once and if you could swing it, maybe wait until you have enough to do headstuds as well. I did an egr delete and oil cooler replacement and then went back in 9 months later for the head studs, what a PITA that was. JMO and hope it helps give some perspective.

TxFireman1972 · Dec 27, 2011

That's probably for the entire housing and all. The rebuild kit is all you need. Just click the link I posted, and search for the part number I listed and you'll get this:

http://tousleyfordparts.com/partloc...iteid=214771&categoryID=158097&subcat1=158122

Breaking Habits · Dec 27, 2011

They just came off of national backorder. they are highdollar anywhere you go at the time :/

TxFireman1972 · Dec 27, 2011

$213 from Tousley is a good price.

yeehaw · Dec 27, 2011

http://www.puredieselpower.com/catalog/0307-ford-60l-powerstroke-diesel-oil-cooler-p-25152.html

that's the one i put in my truck in spring time....except my temps were about 30 degrees apart or so cruising down the freeway

MorganY · Dec 27, 2011

$213 is damn cheap! I'm buying one right now. I see 13° difference, EOT being the higher one

TxFireman1972 · Dec 28, 2011

I was all the way up to 23 degrees difference when mine went in the shop.

sickslow · Dec 29, 2011

Well I installed the coolant filter today. Im going to slowly buy some more parts as I get the money (being a full time engineering student makes it hard to have time to work a whole lot). I have the egr delete sitting here in my room, I am going to try to get an oil cooler, intake gaskets, upgraded turbo oil drain, dozers diesel banjo bolts, and blue fuel pressure regulator spring. I hope to be able to buy all of this piece by piece and then install it all at one time. Do you all think that I am missing anything for this small build?

Since I have to remove the intake now I am going to intensively clean it somehow. I also plan on taking the turbo apart and refurbishing it while I have it out. It has been sticking for a few months now especially after wide open throttle runs for a few seconds the vgt% on my insight will read 85% and it will not build any boost until the vgt % jumps back to around 55 or 60 after about 5 seconds. I think this is sticking vanes. Not really sure what else it could be...:shrug: I hope my unison ring isnt cracked or something like that....