Tunes for 250/200s

Bigsexy · Dec 28, 2012

I plan on putting 250/200s in my truck and was wondering what tuners have had good luck tuning these injectors. I have an 38r and know its not a big turbo but im keeping it to stay in work stock with a stock appearing turbo. Our limit is 2.3 in work stock otherwise sled pulling. Ive heard people say they need to be live tuned but I dont live next to any live tuners. I have Cales tunes running my stage 2s right now. Im thinking of trying Gearheads but figured Id see what you guys have had luck with.

hawgdoctor · Dec 28, 2012

Gearhead has my vote. Matt has tuned all the 7.3's I've done with great success, and no complaints.

chris1978 · Dec 28, 2012

Pick a tuner. Pretty much all of them have 250/200's figured out. Personally I've run Swamps and PHP with my 38R with good results.

Lowdown89 · Dec 28, 2012

Most all of the tuners around can make you happy with their tunning for these injectors.... Bill at PHP has done A LOT of Dyno runs with my truck with the 250/200s trying out the new 38r WW and all the other different combos we have tried so I'm sure he would do you right. But like i said pretty much any of the other tuners such as gearhead,tony wildman,beans,etc could do you right as well

Southmike · Dec 29, 2012

hawgdoctor said:
Gearhead has my vote. Matt has tuned all the 7.3's I've done with great success, and no complaints.

I agree I would call a few up listen to who has the best service for your needs.
The to ten tuners will prob be within ten percent of each other.

BDP Tuner · Dec 29, 2012

I have a lot of time on the dyno with these INJ's on a lot of different combos ( Big turbo, stock turbo, stock HPOP, Aftermarket HPOP, ect) and I am confident that I could get you some tunes that would make you happy but that still may not max out your trucks true potential. That is why I love live tuning because you know when you find that point that you are not going to make any more power with that combo of parts. I say that to say this, one thing we are starting to use is a new tool to datalog. it is something you can run in you truck record all the data that you or I would ever want and you can email it to me with ease. Then we can review it make changes and send you a new tune.

under pressure · Dec 29, 2012

Well isnt that bad azz sounding !

lincolnlocker · Dec 29, 2012

BDP Tuner said:
I have a lot of time on the dyno with these INJ's on a lot of different combos ( Big turbo, stock turbo, stock HPOP, Aftermarket HPOP, ect) and I am confident that I could get you some tunes that would make you happy but that still may not max out your trucks true potential. That is why I love live tuning because you know when you find that point that you are not going to make any more power with that combo of parts. I say that to say this, one thing we are starting to use is a new tool to datalog. it is something you can run in you truck record all the data that you or I would ever want and you can email it to me with ease. Then we can review it make changes and send you a new tune.

holy hell, i need one of those in my truck at all times hooked to a direct link to your computer... from anywhere in the country.

live life full throttle

Bigsexy · Dec 29, 2012

Id be interested in that

2000wa250 · Dec 30, 2012

Matt or Bill. I would lean to Bill given he's done a lot of work lately with 250/200's and a 38r on lowdown's truck lately, so you would be getting some pretty dialed in tunes if he used those as a base...just my .02

Bigsexy · Dec 30, 2012

I do like the numbers I see with the new wheel hes been testing

Bigsexy · Dec 31, 2012

Whats do you guys see with your egts. Bill posted 1400 max on his 38r gen2 w.w. test. I see more then that with my cales tunes.

BDP Tuner · Dec 31, 2012

Bigsexy said:
Whats do you guys see with your egts. Bill posted 1400 max on his 38r gen2 w.w. test. I see more then that with my cales tunes.

do you know if that 1400 Max EGT is on the run on the dyno or is it form a stop to 4th gear?

From what I see there is a big difference

Arisley · Dec 31, 2012

Tony could put some tunes on there that would pull like a big dog. They make a "little" smoke in the all out tunes. On the track if you ain't smokin, you are not getting all the power.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for smoke free daily drivers, but during competition, if you don't have some smoke, you need more fuel.

Sent from my truck while eating, adjusting the radio and passing a Mustang sideways.

MadDiesel73 · Jan 1, 2013

I really really liked matts tuning with my 400/200's. drove better and cleaner then 250/100's

Power Hungry · Jan 1, 2013

BDP Tuner said:
do you know if that 1400 Max EGT is on the run on the dyno or is it form a stop to 4th gear?

From what I see there is a big difference

On dyno testing we hit 1400º at 3500 RPM. This was a loaded dyno pull in 3rd Gear w/TCC locked, starting at 1400 RPM. Run time was ~8.4 seconds with a simulated load of 8000 pounds. On an unloaded test, the run time was ~4.3 seconds and I never broke 1100º.

On the street from a dead stop, I can hit about 100 MPH before breaking 1400º. From a 40 MPH roll, I can hit 90 MPH and never break 1000º. This is with 250cc/200% and GTP38R turbo. Plus, the trucks starts up like this when cold...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLTMbDfSkT4

250cc/200% injectors are not difficult to tune for at all. Matt can certainly handle it as well as a few others.

Stroker#66 · Jan 1, 2013

I have beans tunes and my egts are way up there. I can peg my 1600* gauge in 5-10 sec pull @ 52lbs

Power Hungry · Jan 1, 2013

Stroker#66 said:
I have beans tunes and my egts are way up there. I can peg my 1600* gauge in 5-10 sec pull @ 52lbs

Any idea at all what your EBP is at 52 PSI? That's going to tell you more about what's going on with airflow than what boost you're making.

Bigsexy · Jan 1, 2013

What tuners have free reburns? I might actually take both my chips and send one to Matt and one to Bill then see whos I like more. I ran Bills when my truck was pretty much stock and thought there was better out there but that was 3yrs ago and hes always worth another try