SSpeeDEMONSS
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Has anyone kept up with the thread on comp? A lot more debate going on.
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I've been asked countless times ...
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seeyalater5.9
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Link?
Only problem I see here is, how do you deem something "proven to work" if no one tests something? LOL
Dieselcraft
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As many have read iv road the batmo fail boat to the bottom of the fail LOL
Then have Bill say a un touched lock washer was my casual part for compressor wheel explosion.
F bullseye Turbos I will never purchase another turbo with that name on the CHRA
Now I'm a happy owner of a turbonetics dual ball bearing 64/65 billet compressor wheel
Then have Bill say a un touched lock washer was my casual part for compressor wheel explosion.
F bullseye Turbos I will never purchase another turbo with that name on the CHRA
Now I'm a happy owner of a turbonetics dual ball bearing 64/65 billet compressor wheel
Lowdown89
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I actually still have the 38r batmo and bullseye is supposed to be sending bill one of their "new and improved" versions so we can try again.. They said they had a few guys runnin them who were happy with the gains but when I asked for proof I got none. For the record Im not expecting 1 ounce of change in performance with the new wheel but supposedly they will give the 7.3 guys a refund if It doesn't work since according to them it was the only wheel that didn't pick up any power. Something I also find hard to believe!
strokin6L
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I'm in no way pickin sides on the batmo working or not working, but didn't craig at MPD dyno a powermax and a stock turbo...with and without batmo wheel and found hp gains with them? I know it wasn't much but i know he did test those two chargers with and without them and saw gains using the batmo. Not sure how those vgt turbo's compare to a non vgt using a batmo tho.
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I have to agree with Greg here. I also am not defending the batmowheels as I personally don't think they are worth it but like he said, how does anyone know if there is something that is better out there if no tries it?? This also inspires more competition to develop better and lower cost options. JMO though.
Yes Chris. IIRC, Craig tested both a stock 6.0 turbo and Powermax turbo with a batmowheel with 190cc injectors (I can't remember the nozzle size but 100% is sticking in my head for some reason). I believe both instances yielded like a 10hp and 100ft-lb gain and a drop in EGTs of like 100F. I know that in both cases 190s are WAY too much of an injector for either turbo (with or with out a batmowheel), so I don't know if those sort of gains would/could be realized with smaller injectors and the same turbo.
SSpeeDEMONSS
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http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1905319
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yes that was my truck
Before and after Craig tested the batmowheel on my 03 turbo
stock numbers: 482.1hp @760.2ftlbs
Batmowheel: 493.5hp @867.8ftlbs
Back pressure& Boost
Stock: 42psi&36psi
Batmo: 42psi&38psi
motoxracer42
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Lol ask craig what he uses for turbos and why.
06f250powerstroke
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^^^ x2 lol
Corb@CorbinShipping
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Curious to what the Batmo guys say... I had billet ball bearing Precisions in my Tow Xs, and they both were obliterated, with stock fuel, ZERO drag races, and towing twice, in less than 3,000 miles. I now have the journal bearing Bullseyes, with one single, and one double batmo, and have no issues as of yet, but I am no where near 3 k yet either... I dont have an apple to apples test for comparison, however, this isnt just a "Bullseye's turbos are crap" kinda discussion, with no one ever having bad experiences with other turbos....
SSpeeDEMONSS
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Go read the thread on comp, some batmo guys are speaking up.
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Corb@CorbinShipping
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Saw that. Still no real proof that they are or arent making more or less power though.
SSpeeDEMONSS
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I guess it can be argued either way depending on who is doing the arguing.
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Corb@CorbinShipping
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Yup. Ill get mine done, and if I ever have an issue with the turbos, Ill pull them, replace the wheels with stockers, and set it on the dyno again. But the Batmo and double batmo on my setup was there already, and I dont plan on changing them... But if I need to, Ill report on the differences....
I would like to see the Bullseye crew post up some numbers, as a rebuttal, if nothing else...
seeyalater5.9
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You would think if this info was "false" or "altered" they would of already jumped all over it providing real #'s.
.... Still waiting
.... Still waiting
Corb@CorbinShipping
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yup...
My personal opinion is that the success or failure of the batmo on a performance platform is going to vary depending on what turbo it's in. That said I installed a Pmax on my truck over the summer and put about 5k on the stock wheel with a tune built for the pmax. I then changed the wheel with out reseting the ECU and right off the bat (no pun) I had better throttle response, part throttle to WOT cleaned up quicker, and it would break the tires loose like a stocker with out the lag on the bottom end. so in my book it makes the Pmax a more streetable turbo. Also I picked atleast 1mpg up over the cast wheel. my combined mileage for the stocker was 16, pmax + batmo 15.5 and Pmax cast 14.5. My 2 cents atleast
MorganY
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Shot an exhaust wheel out of my bullseye, literally.
10 extra hp isn't worth the charger exploding 5000 miles later
10 extra hp isn't worth the charger exploding 5000 miles later
