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Message: [QUOTE="Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto, post: 1365467, member: 8143"] ^^^all of this. To a T. Tell them you'll pay invoice and not a dime more. I never pay over invoice, but I also never have to ask because we spend so much that we automatically get it. I used to be a cheap ass and tell them I wanted hold back too. But I let them have a little profit so they don't gouge me on my trade. If the dealer will not go at invoice, just move on. There used to be someone here that had the ability to take a vin and look up invoice. But I don't remember who that was. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]

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