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Message: [QUOTE="Lt.Dan, post: 1549369, member: 24137"] 5th wheels and toy haulers are getting ridiculously heavy and large. I own a Grand Design Momentum 381M, its 45' long and loaded it weighs 22k lbs. I know there are several trailers out there tipping higher than that, but im not gonna go buy a Semi just to pull my trailer 8 or 9 times a year. My 18' just pulled the trailer empty (18k lbs) up the Grapevine in cali at 58mph with the pedal to the floor. So when loaded, yeah I would like to have a little more oomph, and not have to try as hard. I couldn't imagine people pulling the actual weigh ratings of 31,700lbs. [/QUOTE]

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