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Message: [QUOTE="stonepusher, post: 805447, member: 663"] Good post! I never said the 4r was more superior. I stated my experiences with both. Good points on both ends, but fwiw my truck drives damn near like its in tow haul at all times, is that good for towing or bad for towing idk because I have never towed anything. As for tuning, instead of taking 30 min to change trans tune when having a 5r, having the pcs is a totally different computer and making changes takes a minute maybe, damn near on the fly. Maybe that can change if you use a pcs with the 5r but you would still have to flash the PCM to a manual trans. I think I remember seeing one post of using a built 5r and a pcs, well now your adding another $800 to the cost of your trans. Like stated, my 5r took me a long way.....but there was an option so I took it. Not downing any 5r builder I just chose the 4r. The 4r has worked flawlessly for me as a race trans and daily driven trans. That's what the OP was wanting to know. People who have done the swap and have it. Not just been around it. No offense. [/QUOTE]

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