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Message: [QUOTE="Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto, post: 805500, member: 8143"] I guess the tuning speed is one thing I missed. And yeah I can see how the trans tune will make it drive like its in tow haul. I have towed with 4rs and 5rs as well. Once again do you have to own a 6.4 with a 4r to have driven and experienced them? I understand what the op is saying about having regrets. But at the same time having driven both the built 4 and 5rs, I think my opinion is relevant. I never said they don't work or that they are terrible etc.... But if we can make the 5r do the same for the same cost then why not? I can say that the 4r in a regular cab for a fun toy truck would be a blast. But Idk if I would honestly do it or leave a 5r in it. But in a tow, dd, sub 1000hp truck I don't think that you can go wrong with a good 5r and good tuning to make it work optimally. [/QUOTE]

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