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Message: [QUOTE="Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto, post: 806092, member: 8143"] Once again, I HAVE been in a 6.4 with a swap. Have not been in a 6.0 swap. Yes, the way they load the engine and move trough the gears is nice. I HAVE NOT owned one or personally daily drove it. It just didn't appeal to me enough to make me want to commit. I have driven a lot of built 4rs. Once again my experiences have been with multiple different trucks. Earlier I said it would be a blast in a regular cab play-toy truck. I just wouldn't want it it my main truck for all purposes. Not that they can't be used for all purposes. I never said they don't work or don't work well. I am not a 4r hater, but I too get tired of hearing all the BS about 5rs. Saying they cannot be made reliable and there's no way that they compare to a bts. It's not true anymore. What I am telling is not hearsay. Just because I do not own one does not mean that I do not have experience with them. The reason I do not own them are the same reasons I have stated earlier. For the few that want them, that is great. Once again in my case I didn't want it. And it is not necessary to have 4r just to dd a 6.4 with stock fuel. I posted here to clear the air of all the people thinking you have to swap a 4r to be reliable past stock 6.4 power. Just not true. And the cruise working will inevitably be a major gain in the 4r swap popularity for every day drivers. [/QUOTE]

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