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Message: [QUOTE="TARM, post: 424791, member: 578"] I think you totally missed the point. If you looked I wrote that it would not surprise me if some people choose to do the sumps now more then they use to because of the option to not having to drop the tank to do it. The comment was a playful jab. What is bad about a sump; nothing other than what I wrote. What is so great about a draw tube 5/8 or otherwise; same deal. If you actually read what I posted and the other posts in the thread..... Many were speaking of how the sumps were basically far superior to the draw tube. That draw tubes by design were restrictive compared to sumps of same size. I was putting forth the data to show that as you have just repeated that there is next to no difference between a sump and a siphon when it comes to flow rates. But as far as sumps go they cost 3x the cost of a PU. You are cutting a hole into the bottom of your tank. You now have fuel lines and fittings hanging down low where they could be caught on something. Some people do not have mall crawlers. Dumping 40 gals of diesel onto a road can tend to get you in some trouble. While its not illegal to have a sump they sure can charge you for the costs of clean up and that is not cheap. It was mentioned the benefit of a sump was that it took away the issue of low fuel tank level issues with air being sucked up the PU tube. I was pointing out how that could be dealt with quite easily. Not to mention the fact that we take away the factory device that prevent the issue from happening in the first place by supposedly upgrading the PU as I mentioned above as well. You think hooking up two hoses that are already run to the other ports on a filter base that is going to already be there is overcomplicated? Cause by doing so as long as your using a filter with enough flow capacity would completely solve any issues people are having with low tank issues if its from fuel slosh uncovering the PU inlet. If you find that to complicated that is your right. I think its seems quite simple. But then I like to have things done the best I can make them not just good enough. [/QUOTE]