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Message: [QUOTE="Chvyrkr, post: 1062582, member: 169"] Threads like this are why I hardly ever post anymore. All I'll add, is I ran a PMR engine in a pickup that trap speed said was making 420hp, for 30k. The undamaged long block came out at 236k, and is sittin in my shop. Never came out of the hot tune, and towed up to 12k with it. Rev limiter set at 4k RPM's, and verified. If a good tuner live tunes a PMR motor, your chances are just as good as a forged motor. Sub 500hp. I didn't start having issues with engines until I swapped that PMR engine out. If I could do it all over again, I'd still be running a low 400 on the factory installed PMR engine. [/QUOTE]

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