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Message: [QUOTE="mikeeg02, post: 1423879, member: 24194"] I never said cruising at 70 mph making ~110hp while towing a 38R would be hot. But that condition can happen with any turbo, if your rpms are low enough. (not knowing gear ratio vs tire size of said truck making said claim) From what I understand, this is a condition that can happen with the aftermarket wheels on the 38R's, but I have 0 experience there. I left mine alone after talking to a few members, and reading about them coming apart probably from poor installation practices. I do have interest in going to a 200% nozzle (hindsight is 20/20). And maybe yours work that much better because of how your injector manufacturer puts the package together. And I do understand the concept of more fuel per time of nozzle size, and the benefits that has in regards to making cooler, more efficient power. (though many tuners now, heed warning about going to them for the need of some trucks requiring live tuning, and yes the better tuners youve mentioned give that warning, and I also have the same tuners writing my files) I do also realize the additional hp thats required to spin up tires, and accelerate quickly unloaded (or loaded) like you described before. The point of the above statement being the ability to make power, for a duration. Towing and loaded. That is where I feel the new Borgs really shine over the 14 year old design the 38R has. The ability to make and hold the same or more horsepower. If the 38R was really that great to begin with, why did you put an aftermarket compressor wheel on it? Its the quest for more, and more useable power. Hell the other night I was doing some testing loaded up a grade, and can make 5+ psi at 1500 rpms, smoke free, and sub 1k temperatures (800 IIRC) with a 366sxe and a 1.0 housing. At 1500 rpms! And I pulled like that for the duration of the grade. I know for a fact when I had the 38R in the same conditions, it wouldnt happen. The entire point of this thread IMO is to show the improvement and (towing oriented) performance gains of the new borg chargers. And several people have gone from the 38R to a variant of the new borg chargers. (and many have commented in this thread) To see if they hold up to the test of time like the 38R has, will take time to tell. But I can tell you that I have absolutely 0 regrets in this charger swap(its just money right?). Improvements in every aspect. Several people have made the jump, and with no other changes seen the benefits. [/QUOTE]