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Message: [QUOTE="Fast-6.0, post: 445055, member: 353"] Have to agree with Erik here. The OP questioned good results. How can you answer the question without testing before and after and only changing the manifolds. Bigr's truck runs good, so does that mean good results, no because we know it lost power. On Dallas' truck is there any data to show how the manifolds affected the truck? Not since a bunch was done at once, NO way to say which product did what. Other than Lubeowner saying he was going to do a before and after test who has done that? Is there anyone out there (other than Elite) who has done a test of just the manifolds before and after. I know its a HUGE amount of work but anything else is not a true test and pointless in proving the gains of Steedspeeds. We have a customer who said he gained horsepower and mpg with steedspeeds. This was totally opposite of the results we had with bigr's truck. Once I questioned what he had done, I was told he deleted the dpf, the egr, added an afe, put in an H&S, and put in steedspeeds and our upppies all at once. Did he have good results, according to him the manifolds and uppipes are performing exceptionally. I could be stupid about it and tell myself that the manifolds and uppipes gave him the power gain and that the Hot Damn tune did nothing for him. Removing the DPF did nothing for his fuel economy either. LAME! Do you want answers? Do you want to know where your money went? I do. So I will test properly. Leen can make the manifolds but the testing must be done. I am sorry, but the videos provided by Mike do nothing to prove good or bad results with the manifolds. Ask Bigr if he is happy with his results. [/QUOTE]