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Message: [QUOTE="Wayne, post: 457831, member: 863"] I think I speak for all of us "consumers" interested in the results when I say data logs & dyno runs of manifolds and up pipes being the only variable are the only legitimate information worthy of convincing anyone here. Butt dynos and reports of "it's really fast now" aren't gonna convince me either as I know of a lot of wanna-be heroes and self proclaimed experts who claim a product is the next best thing. Because the product looks "cool", and they spent a lot of hard earned coin, they like to convince themselves and others that it made a ton of power when they did this mod. Aside from cosmetics, the only positive reviews I've heard on these manifolds are from guys with no data to back up their claims who may, or may not have done other modifications at the same time. Please people, for the sake of not beating a dead horse, keep your feedback to yourself unless you have legitimate verified info. It only makes you look foolish when your butt dyno directly contrasts the validated info. It looks like plenty of legitimate shops are working on collecting legitimate info on these, so I say wait for concrete info. Good post BTW Matt. It's been brought up before, but I think what you said has a lot to do with the poor results. [/QUOTE]

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