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Message: [QUOTE="Powerstroked162, post: 286868, member: 120"] Lol, I was so confused reading between your other thread and this one. I had forty edits so i chopped it. The original set used a k31 wheel from what I understand. Its a direct bolt on. Shaft sizes are identical and makes drop in upgrades easy so cost is down since the wheels are cheap and they can be had pretty easy. Industrial uses it. I was going to use a k31 based wheel in an Atmo but the turbo builder of the charger I run on my truck couldn't make it happen so I had to shelf it. Regardless, the new wheel from Precision is supposed to outflow the previous model but JD, or Tadd will have to comment on that as I don't have the numbers. My take on the whole Batmo deal is that its an idea off something entirely different that has been incorporated to these chargers in the effort to make something new. While Im all for new and innovative things, I just can't for the life of me be happy with leaving power on the table at peak RPM. Especially when we are talking 25hp+.... Im too greedy for that. Im not trying to dog anybody here either so don't take it that way. I understand your guys stance. I just know that there has been more than one turbo shop that I've talked with whose seen loses in power switching between a standard billet wheel in a batmo. They all did say, interestingly enough, that the Batmo made peak power sooner in the RPM range than its billet counter part but it never could make the same peak number. Always came up short. My thing with the batmo's here is that people are using them in a variety of applications now. My biggest gripe is stock turbo's like the 7.3's and 6.0's, 6.6's and 5.9's, etc., I do not see how dropping $400 on a wheel plus labor and balancing fee's is a step in the right direction when that money could be put down on an upgrade turbo from you guys or other shops like Elite, PTP. It too me is a poor mans gimmick. Thats just my take though. Im different than the average consumer too and I have spent enough money doing stuff like that in my years to know that I'd have been better off in the long run to buy what I needed, what was the best purchase in the long run, because I would've saved money and been ahead for it. Live and learn though. [/QUOTE]