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Message: [QUOTE="Notneb, post: 1317194, member: 22077"] Update on the Commuter's punishment!!! Ok, been working nights so didn't get to really abuse the Fox 2.0's until recently, buuuuutttt: Seriously for Carli's supposed: Asphalt Warrior Kit, this thing really holds it's own in the desert! Took a few trips up to Mt. Lemmon to see how the M16's handle the snow, and found out that maybe... I... broke a vacuum line *cough* Look doesn't matter, what matters is I got about halfway up the mountain side before I figured out that the hubs were definitely NOT locked in lol. So me being lazy since I have to unbolt the hub covers on the wheels, I just locked the diff and made it work. I didn't get into deep enough snow to really warrant 4x4, just lost peace of mind. The M16's did ok, much better than I expected, and with some siping it would actually be a decent deep snow tire. After that I spent some time down on the desert floor scouting trails that I could safely do 50-60mph down without ripping the front axle out from under the truck, lol. So I will say, as in Washington, the limits of the shocks are easy to get to, HOWEVER even when I got to where the ass end was starting to get loose, the truck was very manageable. For some Fox 2.0's with no remote reservoir, they were able to handle about 2 hours of constant 50mph runs down roads with pretty nasty washouts from the flash floods of the rainy season. I hit a few "humps" that sent the front end airborne *only a few inches, settle down* and the whole time the truck was very well composed, very smooth even though you could tell the shocks were at their limits. I hit one that I may have bottomed out the fronts. This really made me think hard about getting ALA's and limit straps sooner than later lol. Overall I'd say the suspension has about 2000 miles of decent speeds on some somewhat rough roads. For reference, I took my 08' 2500 down the same roads, with stock suspension and 33's, and averaged about 15mph lol. I know that's not a fair comparison, but it will give you an idea. I averaged 43mph in the F250 with what you see in the sig. Like I said, Carli continues to impress me, and everyone that rides in the truck, ESPECIALLY fellow Carli owners. No one believes that it's only Fox 2.0's from the "Commuter" kit. Is it gonna win any Dakar's? No, but it'll damn sure try lol! [/QUOTE]