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Message: [QUOTE="FreddyM, post: 633435, member: 7887"] You think 15.3 is anything but slow?!? My stock hemi 1500 would run high 14s with a superchips tune. Sorry I've been off the forum all day. But to you guys that are still debating the Ecoboost vs superduty: a 2013 comes with an onboard data recorder, so say bye bye to tuning it while in warranty. I'm serious guys, my family member is a service manager at the ford dealer and he is not honoring warranty claims on 13 vehicles that he knows have been tuned. They can tell nowadays. And the 6.7s with DPF deletes he is turning away and telling them to go to another dealer because he did too many claims with deleted 6.4s..... The Ecoboost is over-hyped, I didn't get that good gas mileage as they told me, and honestly the transmission feels like it's gunna fall on his face the first 5 min driving it each day. It has no where the interior space of my SD. And the 5.5 bed is NOT gunna cut it. I wasn't happy with the experience honestly. I had a built Hemi in my first truck and then I switched to a diesel and then switching back to gas left me wanting more. No real power behind it. I'm happy I got to drive one and not test drive it only once. I am a proud family member of a ford plant employee so I received A plan pricing, and FULLY loaded fx4 with a 402 tech package. It's the max you can go, I was still looking at over 40k!!!!!!!!! I bought my 08 KR with 75k for 28!!!!!!!! Wasn't stoked on that...... the locking diff and little features did interest me, but after driving it and then seein other Super Duties on the road, it'll make you really regret getting one. And if anyone is looking to increase tire size beyond stock, good luck because it TEARS into the gas mileage...... [/QUOTE]