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Message: [QUOTE="bigrpowr, post: 1439238, member: 806"] i sell alot of both vgt and non vgt . i have owned and driven both. i know for my 13 , on stock fuel , i was shocked at how well mine drove with the box 63 in the MPD kit. in the higher tunes the smoke output was a good bit more at low rpm with the foot down, but average driving just wasn't bad at all. i towed around 10k a few times and it was literally nothing different than the stock turbo cept the noise , just had to use my head when getting on it at low speed and rpm to not make a mess of smoke. the smoke map is crazy on the 6.7 in general , so unless the tuner really goes after disabling that map , it can be low to no smoke, at least with an 11-14 pump, probably can be worse with a 15-16 . with that setup i ran the base h&s cal2 file. no mcc . they each have their place for sure , but the right non-vgt for your needs can me very suitable. then again , hard to beat a street max for the exact same needs . [/QUOTE]

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