If you wanted to build a single turbo set up what would you use?

O4ep3civ · Aug 8, 2014

What's up Army. New to this site. I'm coming over from powerstroke nation.

I'm wanting to build a single turbo set up.

I want to start with a bare block and build it. Of course it's going to be a slow build. That's why I want to find a block. So I can still drive the truck.

So. What brand and parts would you use? I'm looking for a list to get some ideas

Plans are to have a high horse power street truck but to be able to daily it if I wanted so I would need reliability. Not really going to do any towing. Might do some 1/4 mile runs.

It would be awesome if I could get a set up that was 1000hp on just fuel.

This won't be a budget build. So price won't be a factor since this is a slow build.

Overall I'm just looking for some set up ideas. What parts to use. What size set ups.

Also anyone know where I can get a good bare block? Or even a cheap complete motor so I can use some of the parts as cores.

Thanks!

NathannialD · Aug 8, 2014

maybe do a bit of reading, high power and reliable dont go together very well. imo 1k hp with a single is not going to be all that awesome, going to be smoky and laggy for daily driving.

O4ep3civ · Aug 8, 2014

I've been doing a lot of research. Maybe I'm shooting for to high of number. What about something around 800

johnp115 · Aug 8, 2014

Not trying to come off as a dick but if you're really shooting for anything over 700hp I think you'd have to do a lot more learning to where you're not asking people "what parts" to get you there. Just cause a lot of things would have I be specific to your truck and your needs and also your budget.

You're talking dual fuelers 100% or bigger nozzles and a huge single (not dd able lol) /compounds (would be smarter) pistons rods blah blah e v e r y t h i n g to support that, sending the heads out to get ported, cam, boring the block etc...

Breaking Habits · Aug 8, 2014

800 is easily done with 60% nozzles. Some trucks with 30% have even broken 800. I know given what I've seen in lots of vehicle I wouldn't trade 60% for 100% unless I absolutely had to. Hard to keep smoke under control the larger they get.

O4ep3civ · Aug 8, 2014

johnp115 said:
Not trying to come off as a dick but if you're really shooting for anything over 700hp I think you'd have to do a lot more learning to where you're not asking people "what parts" to get you there. Just cause a lot of things would have I be specific to your truck and your needs and also your budget.

You're talking dual fuelers 100% or bigger nozzles and a huge single (not dd able lol) /compounds (would be smarter) pistons rods blah blah e v e r y t h i n g to support that, sending the heads out to get ported, cam, boring the block etc...

I understand where your coming from. I'm mainly looking for set up ideas. I plan on doing all internals and head work. I also stated money isn't an option. This won't be a budget build and it's not going to be done over night.

I guess I'll just start building and play around with a couple set ups and see where it gets me hp wise.

It's hard to find a 6.4 block that isn't destroyed.

johnp115 · Aug 8, 2014

O4ep3civ said:
I understand where your coming from. I'm mainly looking for set up ideas. I plan on doing all internals and head work. I also stated money isn't an option. This won't be a budget build and it's not going to be done over night.

I guess I'll just start building and play around with a couple set ups and see where it gets me hp wise.

It's hard to find a 6.4 block that isn't destroyed.

Yeah well I'd be looking Ito compounds cause you'll need a large turbo and you won't have the drivability it sounds like you'll want. 66/88 lays down some hp and is probably what you'd like. And maybe just start with a fresh new block

O4ep3civ · Aug 8, 2014

Double post*

O4ep3civ · Aug 8, 2014

Who sells new blocks. Everywhere is long and short blocks.

sootie · Aug 8, 2014

ford.

hit up Morgan @ Midwest Diesel and he can get you a deal.

dmkolb · Aug 8, 2014

If your looking for right around 800 rwhp I'm pretty close to that with my setup and I have a complete parts list, listed at http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50899

Get a hold of Morgan Primm of Midwest Diesel & Auto as I got 75% of my parts thru him. You wont be disappointed.

I'm running 59/75s with 30% over injectors with Gearhead tuning and it doesn't really smoke at all. It's actually cleaner now than it was when it was stock which keeps the cops from taking second looks at my truck.

dmkolb · Aug 8, 2014

Then again if your going to go nuts why not go with 66/88s and run either 60% or 100% over if money is no issue. Guys running this set up seem to be hitting 950 to 1000 or more RWHP on these setups. But I know what it cost me from my build which I listed and I now have more into my truck than most people have into their houses. That's not bragging. It was pretty dumb. Just sayin.

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Aug 8, 2014

If your set on the single route there have been plenty of people go single s475, s480 or even garret 80mm gtx turbos. All have made 800+ some closer to 1000. Gonna need to go 100% for the big numbers but 60% will make 800. Dual fuelers, built engine, built trans. All the goodies to support it.

And if budget wasn't really and issue I would consider a good set of compounds.

We are doing a 62.5/88 mm ball bearing garret setup right now for a customer.

A nice set of compounds will get you where you want to be and still be very practical to drive when needed.

madman1234509 · Aug 8, 2014

If you're not worried about spending money I'd do compounds like Morgan stated. Way more fun on the street with big power. Also the sizes he just recommended are probably spot on for a very responsive street setup

HS-MotorsportsZane · Aug 8, 2014

Here is a good charger to start with. We designed this turbo to perform very well as a single, and be a perfect second stage turbo in a compound system as well. It also has the primary wastegate port already cast into the elbow if you want to go the compound route. We also have a perfect first stage turbo for that horsepower range that we can pair with it if you decide to go that way. Let us know if we can help you out.....
http://hs-motorsports.com/turbo-kits/08-10-ford-6-4l-single-turbo-kit.html

thumbo88 · Aug 8, 2014

how much can i get on a stock bottom end im looking at the 66/88 setup

dmkolb · Aug 8, 2014

Bottom ends are a gamble if your going to make big power and stay stock when it comes to rods. I think the crankshafts are supporting big numbers fine for the most part but I bent a rod when I was only making around 600 rwhp. I went with R&R billet rods. And you can get them from Morgan.

webb06 · Aug 8, 2014

dmkolb said:
Bottom ends are a gamble if your going to make big power and stay stock when it comes to rods. I think the crankshafts are supporting big numbers fine for the most part but I bent a rod when I was only making around 600 rwhp. I went with R&R billet rods. And you can get them from Morgan.

Agreed, if you're going big build a bottom end that will hold it.

ChattyCathy · Aug 8, 2014

I would go with the H&S kit. Especially if you want compounds, do a little research on what Zane and Pius can do with compounds.

getstroked27 · Aug 9, 2014

ChattyCathy said:
I would go with the H&S kit. Especially if you want compounds, do a little research on what Zane and Pius can do with compounds.

there is a large amount of truth in this statement. and i can attest to the incredible nature of that single kit. i have no doubt this would be beyond perfect for an 88 sitting next to it. just my input though