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Message: [QUOTE="riverboy460, post: 809512, member: 12627"] I was soo bummed to find out that I just spent hard earned cash on a new chip. Come to find out I pulled my pcm to find a hypertech chip in there. it is the one for my comp xle4. I cant find any info on it online. The Php was a simple install. took me no more then 15 min to do the whole job. the routing to make it look like a clean install was super easy and I was very pleased with the outcome. upon starting the truck I was going through the tunes changing the positions threw a few to make sure it worked it shut off the truck. I then restarted it with success. Then I turned on my head lights and the truck stalled and made a weird sound hard to explain ( kinda like a gas engine when it detonates. switched out the chip for my hypertech and restarted my truck with luck. I then placed the php chip back in and I was good to go. Prob hung up in the no start position (must have passed my no start spot 15). The 65 hp daily driver w really really wakes this truck up. It blew away the hypertech chip by a longshot. However I need to do a longer drive to verify no issues and no high egt's. I felt like I was driving a light weight sports car. I am very very pleased with Mr. Bill's generic tunes over at php so far. customer service has been amazing too. Read a lot of post with complaints but every time I called them to verify info they answered. Top notch crew keep up the good work. Now here comes my fun for the next few weeks finding the best tune to drive in for my short trips to work im thinking stock and use others when I need the extra power or towing. the shifts are soo soft and smooth transitions way nicer then then firm hypertech chip. anyone know what one is worth now a days for a good working chip so I can recover a little bit of my money back. thanks and I hope this post helps someone that's on the fence of purchasing a php hydra chip/tuner. I can recommend it over hypertech but cant say for other tuners like dp etc. My father in law runs dp tuner tunes and loves them. so its all person preference. hear good things about a lot of tuners for the 7.3. thanks all. good night. :pint: [/QUOTE]