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Message: [QUOTE="deangarth, post: 1039531, member: 9723"] So I'm suck of my 2002 f350 cc short box 7.3 L auto 4wd tranny overheating when towing my horses up hills. On the highway and up gravel roads in the mountains here in western Wyoming. Wife had it almost overheat pulling her and her friends (4 horses all together) up a 7% grade doing 45mph with a PHP hydra on the 45 horse tow setting. It got almost to the yellow on my temp gauge on my dash and she pulled over and let it cool off then went on her way. I have an aftermarket cooler ( measures 7" by 11" mounted on front right behind grill) this happens every time we haul. On gravel roads I throw it in 4low and go, no issues. But at this point I'm looking at trading trucks. But I love my 7.3 and only manuals around here (huge farm/ ranch area) are 5.9 dodge cummins. Not a dodge fan. So we are looking at upgrades, option one a zf6 manual swap. Not more auto issues, looking at one in so cal from a kid for around $2700 for all parts needed. Or a john woods tow master for $4700. Problem is I don't have that kinda money right now. And with hunting season and riding horses a lot I'm thinking maybe a second tranny cooler with a fan in it. I was told also get a deep pan... I have been told this is bad for the 4r100. Just more hot oil, also been told it helps cool tho. I don't have an aftermarket tyranny temp gauge, I have been told the factory ones ain't very accurate, but getting clear up to the yellow/ red from running about half way hasta mean I'm hot. I'm leaning towards a manual swap. Next spring/ this winter. I know it's a pain to swap. Not sure how big pain. But sure it sux... Lol but I do love a manual for towing and so does my wife. That's all we do with this truck is tow, horse trailer, snowmobiles, haul wood, haul hay, tow camper, occasional weekend trip to the lake with friends or town. But I need this truck to last. We really don't want any bigger or more bank payments as we wanna buy a house soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]