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Message: [QUOTE="stroker2, post: 637322, member: 407"] I can agree with that but only if we are talking fully built autos AND the controller ($$$$$). Otherwise a factory 4r or e4 is not going to put up with that for very long. Out of pure curiosity why would an auto start out on a grade better than a manual? Seems like if you are going to pull so much weight that it really makes that big of a difference on hills then you would have a 450 or 550 or something that already comes with say 4:88 gears or w/e they come with. Stuff that ZF in the lowest hole and seems like gears would be plenty low enough to get that load moving up a hill just as easy as an automagnum. Again, just looking for the answer to this theory/fact as i havent ever seen an explanation to this [/QUOTE]

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