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Message: [QUOTE="Charles, post: 683624, member: 103"] [i]Having[/i].... to completely release the engine from the drivetrain..... complete a shift from one constant mesh ratio to another.... then reconnect the engine to the drivetrain again is what's bullsh*t. That's what you did back before we grew a brain and stacked ratios on top of one another that could be applied successively. I constantly take off, wind out a gear, lift, make a shift and then get back on the power. I even disconnect the clutch on the downshifts, gasp.... It's SO ignorant to imagine a manual-auto to replace a manual, that it's past-tense. As in already happened. Go on down to your local Ford dealer and test drive any new 400hp diesel you wish with manual control right on the shift-selector. When you get back, notice how that replaced the manual transmission option you don't see anymore. LOL If I wanted, I could reinstall the PWM TCC function and wire a potentiometer to my old clutch pedal laying in the bottom of my barn and reinstall it, then have precision make me a converter with additional clutch discs and steels in place of the stator and hydraulic drive in the converter. As you let out on the pedal the PWM valve would slowly apply the converter clutch discs and you could drive full manual, and push that pedal down on each shift if you like. Hell, I could take a bone stock 4R and simply wire in a switch that wouldn't allow the PCM to command a shift unless you pressed the clutch pedal down. I mean if it turns you on to shove a pedal to the floor to BE ABLE to make a shift, then that should sooth your inner retard, lol. Hell, have it never unlock the converter unless you pressed the clutch down. Then you could stall it out if you wanted, or just release the pedal and idle along if that floats your boat. What most people like you don't get is that nearly all the "bullsh*t" with an auto, is not the trans, it's the control strategy TELLING the trans to do those stupid ass things! [/QUOTE]