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Message: [QUOTE="Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto, post: 691575, member: 8143"] Exactly. He uses it like it was intended. Stock, slow, can't tow a lot of weight. I can make the ZF last too. I just don't choose to degrade myself to something that has to be driven a certain way so you don't break it. I had dillusions of manuals being bullet proof, long lasting and maintenance free. Then i owned about 10 of them. Now I only own one. No use for a manual in today's trucks. I've never said that I dislike a manual. All I have stated in comparison is that the ZF 5-6's are less reliable and can't hold as much power as 5r and 6r equipped trucks do in stock form. This argument will go one forever. [/QUOTE]

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