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Message: [QUOTE="KCTurbos, post: 1376084, member: 13852"] Well... it was a LONG TOUGH WEEKEND!!! A couple months ago I had someone contact us to inquire about a turbo. He had been running a non-vgt turbo and was super disappointed. He was sold on how "fast" they spooled and how "streetable" and "towable" they can be, but in the end he was super disappointed. He said as soon as he sold his non-vgt kit that he would buy a new turbo from us... so we worked out a deal and he traded his whole kit and turbo to me for a stage 2 turbo. Now that I have my setup dialed,the dyno up and working, and the stage 2 and stage 3 turbos tested, I thought it would be a good idea to do some non-vgt testing (I have had a lot of requests/call outs to run one on my truck). I am excited to get some actual data because I usually only see a lot of "talk" and no data. Lets first talk about the install. T-4 non-vgt swaps SUCK to install on a 6.0. I probably should have pulled the cab and bought a new 2 piece downpipe. If there is a"better" kit out there that is "supposed" to fit right then I HIGHLY suggest getting it... Even if it is more money or has a slight lead time. Oil drain was super tough to line up but after about 15 tries I finally got it. The t4 nuts were really hard to tighten. You can only get to them with a stubby wrench but there is no way to put much torque on it to get them tight in such awkward angles with a 2" long wrench. It was nearly impossible to get the downpipe on. It took 2 people, a floor jack, a 4' pry bar, and about an hour to get the downpipe to line up. It was about an inch off on the top side no matter what we did so we had to use a 4' pry bar to get it to line up and dent the downpipe with a sludge hammer just to get it close enough to put the clamp on. Same downpipe fit perfect for 10-20 vgt turbo swaps. [ATTACH=full]164530[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]164531[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]