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Message: [QUOTE="Jason, post: 410351, member: 430"] No offense...but you are expecting way too much out of a pickup, when hauling that kind of weight. For what you are wanting (and i know you "dont want one"), a hdt truck is your best bet. $30k can get you a clean 70" bunk 379 Pete, make it a single axle, 475-500hp with a 13 speed, and a 3.36 rear gear. That would pull your load uphill faster than a pickup could ever think about, a real engine brake for downhill, you wont ever wear it out with that sort of weight behind it either. Remove the bed, and install 4-5 seats in the sleeper and everybody can ride in more comfort than any pickup, not to mention the safety aspect. That truck wouldnt even notice if that second trailer started whipping around for some reason. And you should see double digit fuel mileage as well. A set of drive tires should get you 10 years...hell they would dry rot before wearing out, as they would have...3k more lbs on them than bobtailing...and a class 8 truck wont notice 3k lbs. Hell, my pete always felt empty power wise, until i put 10k lbs in the wagon, then the ride only smoothed out more...and that was at 40k gross..and it would still accelerate and pull like it was empty. [/QUOTE]

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