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Message: [QUOTE="me2, post: 437272, member: 3825"] I'm still milling over what truck to do all this work on and what exactly I am going to do. I spent a couple hours driving my dad's 2011 on the weekend. Its a nice truck but the only real standouts over my 2008 were the seats. They were softer and better shaped in his truck, making them more comfortable, but the seat position seemed wrong or finicky at best. I'm 6'1" and it seemed as though I had to have the seats as low as they would go to be comfortable. In my 08, I can be comfortable with the seat as low as it will go and as high as it will go and on a long trip I use both positions and positions in between. Some people complain about the 08+ KR seats, but I like them. The key is to keep them treated so they are soft. For some reason my dad's 2011 truck seems to be way bigger and more clumsy than my 08, even though his is a short box and mine is a long box. I think the hood is bigger on a 2011 and maybe the windshield is smaller ? Maybe the steering is slower ? I don't know what it is, but it seems to have a way different feel. More ponderous. Slower. It surprises me every time I drive it. My 08 definitely rides better than his 2011. Both are 11,500 GVWR F350s, but mine has 20s and his has 18s, mine is a long box, his is a short box and mine has Bilstein 5160s and his has the stock shocks. The one thing that bugs me about keeping my 08 is the lack of side air bags and side curtain air bags. It would haunt me if we were ever in an accident and we didn't have them. I have never been in an accident, but it can happen to anyone. Then there is the issue of the cab stretch. I'd rather not do it if I don't have to. I love the look of the 08 crew cab long box trucks and how they ride and drive. I'm not sure how much I'd like a 6 door short box. If we need to have one, then I'll do it, but if we can make do without then I'll avoid it. I'm very happy that I stopped and figured it all out before I went any further with the swap. So I think for now I am going to drive a long box 4 door CC truck. Once I figure out what year I want, I'll do the swap on it and use it for a bit. Should I find that we need the 6 door cab, I'll stretch it later on. This would mean cutting the rear driveshaft twice and possibly redoing the rear suspension a bit when the frame is lengthened, but so be it. [/QUOTE]