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Message: [QUOTE="me2, post: 460401, member: 3825"] ???? Like it wasn't real before ? You mean 4 months ago ???? I know exactly what truck I'm going to use. I will be a 2008-2011 F350 SRW 11,500 GVWR, crew cab, 4WD with Lariat or King Ranch trim, 20 inch rubber in white or black, preferably with the chrome package. I want the backup warning system, back up camera, integrated brake controller, tailgate step, power rear sliding window, power telescoping mirrors and console in the front. Nav is optional as I'll probably replace it anyway. I only want to do this once. I want to start with the right truck. Its not something you want to trade in 3 years. The principle of 6Ps. Proper Preparation Prevents P*** Poor Performance. I've got way more reasons to swap engines than 7 MPH on hills pulling a 5er. I don't like Powerstrokes and I don't care for the 6.7. Have you looked under the hood of a truck with one ? Do you want to own that mess when its out of warranty ? Are you aware that the 6.4 in my 08 F350 needed a new fuel system to the tune of ~$10K at 99,500 miles ? Dodged a bullet there ! And the Ford 6.7 has a very similar fuel system, right down to using the same CP4 pump that the 6.4 uses. I like Cummins engines. I'm going to build me a Ford truck with one. You might not agree with that, but this build thread isn't about your truck, its about my truck. Furthermore, this discussion has never been about raw horsepower. If you read the thread, you'll notice that I mention I have no interest in dyno competitions, drag racing or sled pulling. What I do need is a truck that pulls my trailer well and that means I need a reliable engine with lots of torque backed up by a good transmission with the correct ratios. To me the ultimate combination to meet those goals is a twin turbo Cummins 6.7 backed up by a Ford 6R140. And so I've assembled parts to build just that. Its my version of the ultimate tow vehicle. Even furthermore, this isn't my first kick at this cat. 6 years ago I built what was then my ultimate tow vehicle. It was a 99 F250 SRW CC with a 5.9CR and ZF6. I put air suspension and 20 inch rubber on it. It turned out to be a great truck. While lots of other people were mucking around with their 6.0s in a new truck, I didn't spend an hour working on my 5.9CR after I swapped it. It gets great fuel economy, it has good power, its reasonably quiet and the swap cost me almost nothing. I see no reason not to repeat this recipe. 6 years ago nobody agreed with swapping a 5.9CR into a truck with a perfectly good 7.3. 6 years later my only regret is that I didn't do the swap and mods sooner. And looking back I should have started with a truck that had more equipment on it as I either added everything I wanted anyway or I cursed the fact that it didn't have some of the things that I wanted. Knowing all this, I'm proceeding with my swap. [/QUOTE]