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Message: [QUOTE="TARM, post: 348072, member: 578"] I can not help it be the first time I saw this thing all I could think of was a TV ADVO for some new food processor/blender The BATMOMATIC Chops faster, does not clog, it slices it dices ..............:morons: Well all I can say is there is proof that at least with your setup which is very typical as far as parts and was live tuned with dyno work it was worse than a basic stock Garrett wheel. All I have ever seen is that its suppose to perform better than a base stock wheel. There are already plenty of custom wheels that do that with conventional designs. Based on the comments in other posts I have to ask: Did they design a wheel for a turbo without ever testing it on said turbo??? It seems odd and a bit concerning that they need a customer to supply a turbo for testing. I wonder if they are going to exchange wheels for everyone that purchased a 38R wheel if there turns out to be issues as this info seems to point to? After all the the fact they have already made a new wheel for it kind of shows the wheel is not meeting claims. I have never seen a real full comp map for any of the wheels. Does anyone have a real map for any batmo wheel or turbo using one? Do anyone know either way if any of the wheels were ever put in a turbo and onto a turbo test stand and gotten real flow data or was it all predictive from design software? I would have assumed they put them on a test bench whether they had to send it to a outside lab or had one in house. But lack of any maps has me wondering. [/QUOTE]