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Message: [QUOTE="Breaking Habits, post: 1240294, member: 5046"] The story with full flex did not go down that way, but what would me sharing the truth accomplish? Nothing. There will be some sorry excuse how I'm lying. I could point out a picture the first 3 link on jesses truck that wouldn't even drive down the road and show multiple changes over the past couple years that get more or more similar.. There's only so many ways to skin a cat? I guess Dave did it right the first time. It's the same bull****, we're all just nutswingers, even though any customer who calls me asking the difference between OUO and PMF product can tell you I won't trash Trevor. I just say the words "I don't feel it's the same caliber of product, and I wouldn't run it on my own vehicle, therefor I won't sell it, and can't comment on it". I've had people try to phish and make me trash him. I don't say ****. Who jumped whose ass in the caltracs deal? Surely it was an OUO fanboy. No, it was me getting jumped. It's the same bull****. If any of us make a single ****ing solid point there's always some douchebag making a childish comment like, nutswingers, why u mad, or accusing me of attacking someone. I'm over it. It's a god damned double standard. Quit lying about ****, run your business, how ever you wanna do it. But if you are going to lie about Dave or myself, expect us "fanboys" to chime in. Then again, maybe you should call Eric Ramsey and ask him how the deal with full flex went down. Since you are so keen to it. FYI, this is also why no PMF dealers can sell OUO product. I'm not dealing with the constant, you can buy this or you can buy this cheaper from us too ****. The only argument I ever see about our product is that it costs too much. That'll end that. I'm not arguing over this same bull**** anymore: it's not going to change. I'm ok with being a dickhead: all my customers who've bought OUO from me have been happy, and I've never used the competition as leverage to make the sale. Goodnight [/QUOTE]