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Message: [QUOTE="Notneb, post: 1356197, member: 22077"] So if you re-read post #21 you'd see I said I was driving in traffic, in the city. I guess I need to clarify this means stop and go traffic, at partial throttle. In case anyone else is unclear: The comparison I made in post #23 was a quick drive, in the city, stop and go traffic with speed limits of 40mph. I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I was beating on the truck, doing WOT shifts and what not. To address your "injector rattle" I have yet to experience this with P!P v8, possibly because the only reports of this happening, is during WOT launches, which I won't do without traction bars. As far as feedback to P!P, I've already said the owner contacted me with a new tune that addresses the injector rattle and shift stratagey, that I will be testing as well. I feel that I've had very good communication with both David and Mike at P!P, and until $partan contacted me about the comparison, I had nothing to compare the P!P tunes with. And as I already mentioned, I don't do much WOT anything, much less launches, so I never experienced the injector rattle. Feel free to contact both P!P and $partan and ask them if they feel I am in any way being unfair or biased towards either one, or if they think I'm providing false input. At anytime if either of them feel I'm being unfair, they can post their concerns on this thread for all to see. This comparison is my impressions with the trucks on both tunes, and the facts that I will video tape hopefully this weekend. I am in no way partial to either one, I would just like there to be a thread comparing the two, to help guys in the future. [/QUOTE]