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Message: [QUOTE="713Diesel, post: 444566, member: 7173"] Yeah I hear ya mad man. Like I said before I am not calling anyone out on their products, especially Elite. A bunch of people use their products and they have been around for a while so they have to be doing something right. I also hear what you are saying about some of these not having to be a cab off "while you are there" but it fits into the you are already spending X on X so why not spend a fraction of what you are already spending and just do it all so you can "do it right the first time". It is just hard to find a stopping point just like when you are hunting for a new truck or a new home. I can get this for X amount or I can spend a little more and get this which is better. When do you stop? Obviously this is a hard question to answer. I think you hit the nail on the head with this statement. Nothing is cheap about these trucks (purchase price, maintenance etc) and I think we all knew that when we purchased the truck. I am surprised and quite frankly jealous sometimes when I am reading these posts at some of the cash that some people spend on their truck. It is either some folks make a lot more money than I do or they spend a really good portion of their income on modding their truck. I am by no means questioning people's decisions that they make. I am a firm believer that at the end of the day you have to do what makes you happy and if going all out on modding your truck makes you happy by all means go for it and don't look back. I like to think I make a pretty good income. Before taxes without figuring in my bonus I make about 1300 a week. I got a truck payment, my wife's car payment, house payment, bills associated with a good sized house, FREAKING GAS/DIESEL bill, family insurance (good lord don't get me started) and I am trying to start a family. With all of these costs in the equation that doesn't leave piles of money laying around. So when some people say "while you are there" go ahead and spend 400-600 extra on something I want to know what I am getting since that is not chump change to a guy like me. So when guys throw out statements like go ahead and get you some two powers you will love it like it aint no thing. Tow powers are 3k. Then you have some guys say no go to high powers and never look back. They are 7.5k. I wish I could shell out that kind of money and I am jealous of the guys that can. I know elite put a dyno graph on their web site on what power you can make on the tow powers. What it does not tell me is what mods were done to that truck. Is it on stock fuel/Manifolds/etc? What I would really like to know what did the same truck put down before the turbo swap. This would let me know exactly what I am getting for 3k which is a bunch of money to a guy like me. I keep saying this but I think it is important because I really don't want to piss anyone off but I am not calling anyone out or questioning anyone's decisions. I made the decision to buy a bigger house than I needed in a nicer neighborhood than I really needed to be in and start a family because that is what is important to me at this point and time in my life. It pretty much kills my truck mod budget. So if and when I get the opportunity to make some mods I want to know what I am getting because right now there is a bunch of hear say and a bunch of conflicting reports on items that are not cheap. I just don't think it is too much to ask when I am spending a good chunk of change on any sort of upgrade that they should be able to tell me approximately how much HP gain I can expect since they did a test on X truck and it made X hp before we installed said product and afterwords it made X hp for a gain of X hp. [/QUOTE]