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Message: [QUOTE="Black_Lightning91, post: 444945, member: 2972"] Just adding another point to the hype vs fact area. How can testing be done that proves the results as no two modified trucks are completely the same. Hell with the somewhat lose tolerances built into these trucks they vary greatly from truck to truck completely stock. My take on "knowing" what your truck needs or doesn't need is for you to learn the in's and out's of the truck, drivetrain and all sub-systems. Then based on your goals build as you see fit. Then test yourself data logging tweeking measuring to make sure the result is what you desired. If not refer back to your understanding of how said system functions and adjust to meet your goals. Sounds like a lot of learning and testing right? Well it is but since its on your time you don't really pay for it and by doing so you would know that what you have is in fact what you need. No sales pitch, no hype, no bull unless of course its all your own creation in which case well problem sounds personal. I think these days we expect to much from the aftermarket. People want to know how x part from "elite" (just for reference) will work with y part from "mpd" and so on but do you really expect every manufacture to test his parts against all competion in all setups ect ect? If you do then expect those R&D cost to be passed to you as well for this info. To often on here someone with this setup actually back to back tests this new what ever and get x results then everyone goes OMG WTF blah blah. Well how do you know his truck was properly set up for this part? Was this part setup for his truck or even right for his truck? How do his other modifications, adjustments, driving style and even tolerences in the motor from the manufacture differ from yours and how does this effect the outcome. So what Im saying is if your looking for every part to produce x claim on any setup or that some things won't improve A setup but hinder B set up, then your thinking is irrational and flawed. To often people buy a product knowing nothing more then the add said or so and so said, then try to pass this limited info as fact when in fact they have no facts at all completely here-say unless you yourself test it. No offence to Elite or any other manufature who makes claims of products with any amount of proof unless I experienced it and did the testing then guess what it was told to me and is here-say. So you tell me how to seperate fact from hype/here-say? Easy, facts don't actually exist. There are however commonly accepted theories that have yet to be dis-proven. [/QUOTE]