rear lug nuts are different

vanderchevy18 · Jul 13, 2012

OK guys. What gives? I got some new rims and tires for the excursion and the long mag style lugcentric nuts won't fit on the back! The lugnuts are M14x2.0. They fit on the front. Not the back. What do I need to order and where do I get them?

HOOV3R · Jul 13, 2012

What year? The newer ones changed to a M14x1.5.

78f100 · Jul 13, 2012

We ran into this on swapping wheels between 2 trucks one has m14-2 and one had 1.5 pitch so had to buy new ones also. Go to a local tire store and match one and have them order you some thats what we did.

vanderchevy18 · Jul 13, 2012

Its an 03. The one in my sig. Yeah I've found out that they went to the goofy thread pitch in 03 only. Apparently both front wheel bearings have been replaced because they have the standard 2.0 pitch. Does anybody know where to order what I need? I'm trying to mount some aftermarket rims and need the long acorn style. I called the local tire store earlier today and they said they would have to order what I need. I figured I would just do it myself.

vanderchevy18 · Jul 13, 2012

These are what I'm putting on.

CSIPSD · Jul 16, 2012

Change the lug studs out to the proper one's... That way they all match...

Arisley · Jul 16, 2012

CSIPSD said:
Change the lug studs out to the proper one's... That way they all match...

It is also probably cheaper to replace studs than it is to replace the lug nuts.

You could probably steal four off each front wheel and put them on the back wheels. Lots of vehicles only have four lug nuts on each wheel. :doh:

CSIPSD · Jul 16, 2012

LOL...

vanderchevy18 · Jul 17, 2012

LOLLOL That's great. I have a spare rear axle I will just swap them out later when I have time. For now though I just got some 1.5's and put them on. Thanks guys!

Trav-O · Jul 18, 2012

Wonder if the rearend was swapped in the past

Hotrodtractor · Jul 18, 2012

Few things irritate me more than lugs that don't match all the way around. I had my first run in with mis-matched wheel lugs when I was 15.... I had bought a 1952 Dodge pickup truck - it needed a little TLC, but it ran and drove.... poorly.... I started in on the brakes and had someone help me - I took the wheels off the drivers side - had them go and take the wheels off the passenger side while I worked on figuring out how to disassemble early 50s drum brakes... when I got everything done and went to put the wheels on I had a horrible time..... it turns out one side of the vehicle use LEFT handed threads..... it was then and there that I swore that I would NEVER let mismatched threads occur on any vehicle I ever owned if I could help it. I was one pissed off 15 year old kid.... lol

bng305 · Jul 18, 2012

Hotrodtractor said:
Few things irritate me more than lugs that don't match all the way around. I had my first run in with mis-matched wheel lugs when I was 15.... I had bought a 1952 Dodge pickup truck - it needed a little TLC, but it ran and drove.... poorly.... I started in on the brakes and had someone help me - I took the wheels off the drivers side - had them go and take the wheels off the passenger side while I worked on figuring out how to disassemble early 50s drum brakes... when I got everything done and went to put the wheels on I had a horrible time..... it turns out one side of the vehicle use LEFT handed threads..... it was then and there that I swore that I would NEVER let mismatched threads occur on any vehicle I ever owned if I could help it. I was one pissed off 15 year old kid.... lol

Why did a brand new truck need TLC? LOL just kidding. I couldn't pass that opportunity up.

Arisley · Jul 19, 2012

Hotrodtractor said:
Few things irritate me more than lugs that don't match all the way around. I had my first run in with mis-matched wheel lugs when I was 15.... I had bought a 1952 Dodge pickup truck - it needed a little TLC, but it ran and drove.... poorly.... I started in on the brakes and had someone help me - I took the wheels off the drivers side - had them go and take the wheels off the passenger side while I worked on figuring out how to disassemble early 50s drum brakes... when I got everything done and went to put the wheels on I had a horrible time..... it turns out one side of the vehicle use LEFT handed threads..... it was then and there that I swore that I would NEVER let mismatched threads occur on any vehicle I ever owned if I could help it. I was one pissed off 15 year old kid.... lol

Yep, old Mopars always had left hand threads on one side. The top of the stud will have an "L" on it. The reason was so that they would not loosen up while driving forward. Makes perfect sense.

Hotrodtractor · Jul 19, 2012

Arisley said:
Yep, old Mopars always had left hand threads on one side. The top of the stud will have an "L" on it. The reason was so that they would not loosen up while driving forward. Makes perfect sense.

It sure didn't to this guy at that age - it didn't help that I was doing it on my own because dad sure wasn't very mechanical in nature..... I had already surpassed his skill set in engine troubleshooting and repair by that time.... he would bring home and old tractor (which I probably had already looked at with him) and he would tell me to make a list of what I needed to make it run. Once I was mobile in my trusty pickup truck - I learned a whole lot more at a much higher rate of speed.... I had maybe had my license for a year before I was rebuilding antique engines and even poured and hand scrapped a few Babbitt bearings.... I figure its a short list of 30 year olds at this point in time that have done that.... LOL

Arisley · Jul 20, 2012

It's a short list of 30 yr olds that even know what babbit bearings are.

For that matter, even something as simple as a dual point distributer, or what to do with it.

BTW, I always thought the left handed lug nuts were stupid also.

Hotrodtractor · Jul 20, 2012

Arisley said:
It's a short list of 30 yr olds that even know what babbit bearings are.

For that matter, even something as simple as a dual point distributer, or what to do with it.

BTW, I always thought the left handed lug nuts were stupid also.

Very true - babbit bearings are mostly a thing of past - most of the "late" built motors with babbit have options to upgrade to more modern insert style bearings.

Dual point distributors are awesome old school tech - nice clean and simple. I've resorted to retrofitting the old distributors with HEI tech lately though - I'm working on getting the parts together right now for a neat little unit that should look factory 50s on the outside and be crammed full of modern goodness on the inside....

vanderchevy18 · Jul 22, 2012

I'm 24 and I know what babbit bearings are. I used to work for my grandfather building commercial wax rendering equipment. From time to time we would get an old machine that HIS dad built to rebuild and update. They used to use babbit and wewould switch them to sealed greasable pillar block bearings.