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Message: [QUOTE="BIG JUICE, post: 1498149, member: 11318"] yes, but they make a better remote start than the keys. I am upgrading my remote start for better range. [url]https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1416164-just-installed-factory-vss-and-auto-start.html[/url] look at post number 7, you can just get the remote if you don't want the cell phone start. I got the long range two remote in the mail. when I get it all done I will add the phone access, but my main focus involves the crappy range of the key remote start. The two way remote listed in that chart has a 1 mile range so I can actually start truck and know it is running with out having to get a up from a table or walking outside when there is no cell service to verify truck actually started I can not tell you how many times truck should have been started and thought it was but infact did not. That long range remote is more crap hanging on keys I don't like but if I can start while in the woods or somewhere with no cell coverage then I will deal with it. [/QUOTE]

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