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Message: [QUOTE="drunk on diesel, post: 1255971, member: 2558"] the 6.7 is cheap... Ford makes it... Not Isuzu, not Cummins, not International... need a new shortblock? $4500... need a PAIR of heads? $1600... wholesale on a 6.4 shortblock is getting close to $6k and heads are $1300/ea. Never mind the fact that they're pure reman at this point. It's not too terribly often that you get a bad core that slips through Ford, but we've gotten one with a bad line bore :( That's why we only go to Ford for short blocks though. They warrantied the motor AND THE LABOR. they're still making the 6.7. And it's a legacy engine... Ford did their homework on it. They started designing the 6.7 while the 6.0 was still current! We're 5yrs into the run, and it'll probably be in production 5yrs from now. I love the 6.4. It's like the most beautiful freak of nature that should have never existed, but it did... like a ****ing liger... and all the other animals in the jungle mumble under their breath about how it's a freak of nature that should have never existed, but they still shut their yap and bow their head slightly when one rolls by. Yeah yeah yeah, the 15's are supposed to be doing 600 to the wheels tune-only now, but they've got the transmission as an Achilles heel. A 6.4 is right up there on tune-only power but also has a freak-of-nature transmission that will hold that power for years. So with a 6.4 you pay $10-15k less than a comparable 6.7 and you might have to put $10-15k under the hood... with a 6.7 you're going to have to put $7500 under the truck to fight off a 6.4 for very long. the 6.7 is the future... the 6.7 is the present... but the 6.4 still says **** you! (sometimes to its owner :( ) [/QUOTE]