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Message: [QUOTE="tbsimmons, post: 1395804, member: 2026"] You are good at being condescending. WOW!! How many 48' enclosed trailers have you seen that are only going to weigh 13000#. I can add that for you if you want. Trailer plus 3 buggies. Yea I am sure he will be more than 13000#. 2500*3=7500 and I am sure they might be more than that. Throw another 1500# of tires, fuel and other ****. 9000#. Not knowing which one he is towing, I bet is a triple axle with most likely 6000# axles under it or duals with 7000 range ones. So lets say that he, like the rest of people with trailers, loads more into it than originally planned and is in the 15000# Gross range. Say only 15% is tongue weight that puts it at 2250 if loaded right. Most enclosed trailers or haulers I have seen the axles are pretty far back so the pin weight would be closer to 20% I bet now you are at 3000# or more since he wants buggies in there all close to the pin. A F250 4x4 etc. weighs in the 7500 range. add 3000# to that and now you are at 10,500 and over weight. Another thing is tires. I am sure the back of these trucks are close to 3000# in the back. Throw the pin weight fuel, crap in the bed etc. Over Gross of the truck and tires now unless he has the 3500+# tire rating ones. This is why I recommended a dually. You guys do what you want, I don't care not my money. Ty was the one defending a F150 to tow 10,000# was the reason for that part. [/QUOTE]

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