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Message: [QUOTE="TyCorr, post: 1396054, member: 1451"] Yes. You can say "in this instance I agree with you"...."well Ive seen cars towing!" Knee jerk replies to add dramatic flair to pointless deflection. Im not sure why we're calling them "half tons" anymore or 3/4 tons. My point was very simple in my comment about him being alive pre cr truck era. Ill explain it your direction as I believe and have pretty good proof that he'll disregard it. Completely. Im saying back in the pre sd days, a f250 rclb with a 460 or 351 would have been used to tow a camper or cattle trailer. You dudnt always have a full 18 wheeler load. So you'd throw 8 or so in your cattle hauler and run em up. By his logic, we all died in a horrific rollover that devolved into a flaming inferno. Just for simply pulling things. The trucks have gotten so good people are running around in trucks that can handle 30k lbs but they're afraid of campers and hauling a car. Im not being condescending. Im diffusing his drama. Its unneeded. Ive ran the stuff as I described and been through dot stops. Ive never been ticketed for improper usage. Theres a reason we have to show up with the truck and trailer for our inspections. A 1/2 ton truck is arguably more capable of towing a 10klb trailer in 2016 than a f350 was in 1996. Just to put perspective to that aspect. I dont use halfton trucks to do that anyway. In fact ive only owned one. But yea, a 53' trailer I'd definitely use a.....semi. seriously. If you need a 53 footer to pull toys and are that much of a stickler on what's safen like tbsimmons, he should be recommending a kenworth and van trailer. [/QUOTE]