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Message: [QUOTE="Corb@CorbinShipping, post: 611730, member: 2499"] OK... #1.... So, I had a STOCK trans, the way she came from Ford, with 130,000 miles, and NEVER changed the fluid... I was conducting an experiment, on how long she would last, and finally, I gave in before she did... So, I put a TC on there, nothing else to enhance performance, and a deep pan, and fresh fluid. She felt great at first, but soon began to shake. I talked to FORCEFED6.4 about it, days before the chit the bed, and it felt as if I had a bad U joint... A little shudder at cruising speed. the next day, BAM.... and after Tony helped me swap them, and got the dead trans back to Aaron, only to find out that the TC blew up. Spartan 275 EL I beat the chit out of the stock trans. Boosted launches, racing Camaros, pulling heavy loads, etc. Without regard for the trans, as I expected it to die... LOL Then when I go the upgraded TC and my 71mm on there, I was actually pretty easy on her. Never boosted a launch, and didnt run her very hard at all. #2.... Built trans, Suncoast IronPac 3, billet input, transgo shift kit, and another TC. Then in new mexico, this one chit the bed. Ended up getting a new trans and TC sent out to me, and having Ford do the instal, and later finding out that the stock intermediate shaft snapped... Now, this irritated me, as I NEVER boosted a launch with this setup, and only towed a 1,500 pound trailer for 800 miles. Then, I drove at 70 mph on the highway to NM. Def never beat on this setup. But, everything in the trans, to include the TC, is just fine, after installing a new Billet Intermediate Shaft... IDP Extreme X, delay lock #3.... this is in the truck now. Billet input, IronPac 3, another TC, transgo shift kit. I now have that low power shudder, that I had before, with #1, and I am not overly keen on trusting this setup just yet... Again, no boosted launches, and I have not towed heavy yet... GearHead Hot street, STOCK trans file. I have a trans setup, that has handled 800 + hp race trucks, and I am scared to put any abuse on it at all, after I beat the chit out of my STOCK trans, for 130 K... Here is my question... STOCK, was just that... stock...............................................lived 130,000 miles******** winner! #1 was stock with a DPC TC................................................lived 1,200 miles #2 was full built with RCD TC and shift kit............................lived 2,000 miles #3 is full built with DPC TC (1st one, rebuilt) and shift kit.......prob gonna die soon.... I see a TC on this rig as a recurring theme, and each was a different brand, and each trans dies in a unique way...... So, after digesting what Tadd had said on my last "Trans died" thread, about the TCs holding TOO well... I am looking to do this... #4.... Iron Pac 3 kit, that was already in there, and is not destroyed, deep pan, ditching the shift kit (take care of shift firmness with the tuning), billet intermediate and input, and a STOCK TC.... Does this seem stupid to anyone? HEAVYHAUL's 450, with 200 K miles, pulls 27 K trailer all over WY, has a STOCK trans.... I think, now that I have fresh clutches, and more fluid capacity and better cooling, and a new Ford TC, that I should last at least that long, as I also have a less powerful turbo setup (he has Tow Xs, and I have a 71 atmo) and he pulls WAY heavier, and WAY more often that I do... Discuss.... (please) LOL [/QUOTE]