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Message: [QUOTE="Charles, post: 990181, member: 103"] I just thought to myself and realized.... the reason I have fallen completely out of love with the ZF trans in these ford trucks is the fact that I have been dealing with the exact same bs problems from them for [b]19 years[/b] now! I know.... I didn't realize it had been that long either. Our 95 had the exact same poor shifting, creeping through lights with the clutch pedal buried a half inch [i]into[/i] the floor bs. It had the added benefit of vibrating like crazy as well because of the dumb ass flywheel on the OBS trucks. So I guess in all these years the best they could come up with was a lower first gear, higher OD and single mass flywheel? Pos hydros live on, lol. Plastic bushings, bearings, spacers and such live on, lol. I think things make me the most disappointed when they are so close, but yet nobody can give enough of a damn to see it through, nor to fix it, year after year after year. A decent clutch release system would cure the problems for the average guy because he could keep half the wear off his syncros right there when they didn't have to constantly fight the engine as well as the clutch to engage/disengage each gear all the time. Plus it would drive 100% better. Plus you could actually run some PLATE! Then a single disc would hold gobs of torque and still be lightweight! Then the only problem would be the inherent issue of disengaging all forward drive on each shift and each shift still taking a century compared to a trans where each ratio is added with a hydraulic clutch like a 4R, and the inherent oil destruction with all forward and reverse gears in constant mesh all the time while driving for hours in OD, pulling. Which is only a problem for people that like to approach the level of towing power a bone stock 2014 superduty comes with from the factory. Which is the main reason the ZF series of transmissions went the way of the dodo. A PCS controller costs less than 900 bucks. And will do a hell of a lot more than run a trans. The trans will be far more capable than a ZF, drive insanely better and be much faster. Everyone can drive a truck like that with a simple switch to engage full auto mode. And the real kicker, is that if the person who desperately dreams of the ZF6 were able to drive the same truck each way, they would pick the full manual 4R, they just don't know any better because they've almost certainly never driven one in full manual mode with a physical bump shifter in the cab for up and downshifts. What about a deadman lever on the bump shifter for converter unlock? Need to get on top of the charger for a second? Just squeeze the deadman, converter unlocks, light it off, then release and crush back into the seat. Need to run your water injection? Need to control multiple stages of wastegates on multiple chargers? Need to display warnings or lights, or buzzers at shift points, temp limits or anything else? Want full datalogging? All that and so much more is built in. For a cost that's less than what he'll probably have to give for a junkyard ZF6 with questionable life. Not counting anything else needed. But.... like I said.... some have to learn the hard way. I was one of them.... But maybe some people might read what I've said and at least give it an honest thought. [/QUOTE]