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Message: [QUOTE="TooMuch03, post: 570383, member: 5993"] I think what you are seeing here is a little bit of what happened with the powermax about 2 years ago. The powermax showed up and everyone thought it was the greatest thing, then when they spent their hard earned cash thinking they would be making 600 hp or something, they were disappointed because it is just a small upgrade over stock. Unfortunately, the MTW stage 1 has kind of had the same problem. The turbo was pretty highly praised when it came out and some guys were running it with no tuning and still seeing huge gains, then more people got it thinking that they would just put it on and it would work perfect. Well, some trucks didn't respond as well as others. Either way, neither turbo is a huge improvement over stock, but both are good turbos. FWIW, My truck ran 13.1s at 7400lbs with the pmax and 155/100s, that is around 520 rwhp according to the calculator. [/QUOTE]

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