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Message: [QUOTE="TyCorr, post: 78918, member: 1451"] I believe this is the mindset that people are trying to eradicate. If idling is your top priority(im not being a smarta$$) leave stock inj's in your truck. If you prefer optimum useful performance at rpms above 1500 rpms then you will appreciate the hybrids and the way they compliment the large displacement motor. Wasting fuel idling? Who really cares? Shut the truck off if thats a key concern. Im sure a tuner can 'work' on making you a clean idle for larger inj's. They even commented in this thread it really isnt worth all the fuss as a brief whisp of soot floating out the tailpipe occasionally isnt the end of the world. Go to youtube and look at Mattr66 (gearheads owner) posts. He's got a black truck idling with large hybrids and a 5" exhaust posted and its not smoking or idling choppy. A stock injectored truck with worn sticks idles like crap too. I think that detail, in the interest of being completely honest, is played up. You've got cooler operation and efficiency WITH the opportunity to have increased power using a larger inj and nozzle. Good tuning is good tuning. I went to a local g2g and there was a guy there with 275's in a 7.3 and it was clean idling and pretty smokefree compared to another super duty 7.3 with 175cc stg 2's and cruddy tuning that smoke like a pig. It ran hot and while it did sound good, exhaust wise, it was pretty critical to birddog the gauges if you were on the throttle. Bad tuning! I wanted stg II's six months ago. I dont see the point now unless you are just upgrading a titch over stock. There are people going out of their way to share what hybrids can do for your truck NO MATTER HOW you use it. I just dont see any drawback being overcome by a smaller inj's capability. Even the hpo system is going to like a smaller hybrid vs stock or especially stage 1 or 2's. Curtis is achieving low egts' even when he isnt paying attention. He's towing more weight and the truck is loafing along doing it. Haze during throttle application is easily overcome by a downshift or slowly roll into it and let the charger do its job. I can NOT wait to get some bigger sticks in my truck!! Counting the weeks! [/QUOTE]