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Message: [QUOTE="jdgleason, post: 24290, member: 166"] Before the trans is built, I will go ahead and tentatively say the 5r110 is tougher merely for the fact that it can be tuned. The allison cant be tuned like the 5r can, so the trans slips arpund 100 horse over stock. The thing with the allisons is that the parts inside of it dwarf any parts in most other trannies on the market. Stock for stock (not even tuned) its a crap shoot. Decide which tranny's behavior you like better and make a case off of that I guess. But they both hold very well in factory form and power level. I personally like how the allison shifts, but I would much rather have the 5r because its a workhorse and tunable. I will say you can find several 6.4s that spray on the dyno and make 700+ horse on a bone stock 5r. You wont find that on a stock allison. Also, rudy ran looooww 11s on a bone stock 5r for a while. Also wont find an allison that can do that. [/QUOTE]

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