Another motor bites the dust...

davey99ps

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Damn man, I don't know the whole story but after reading your thread awhile back about the original problems, I can't believe your still dealing with this mess. I give you alotta credit for not naming the shop, I don't think I could remain as calm
 

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Let's see if the company does right. I know they were stringing you along the first time, but if they are willing to make right by this then there is no reason to beat on your chest with legal stuff.
Hopefully they man up. If not, then take it to a higher level.
 

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Okay so......

Brought the truck to "House of Diesel" for studs, atmosphere swap, egr delete, and airdog + elite delete install. Everything was cool in the beginning and I dropped the truck off with a $500 deposit. They start working on the truck and everything is going smoothly. 3-4 weeks go by after waiting for some parts to show up and figuring out the elite delete kit and they finally get it all back together.

The day I'm supposed to get it back I get a call saying to come check out the truck..that there was a run away and the bottom is locked. I go over to find my truck full of oil everywhere and coolant and fuel coming from the pan. I am dumbfounded at this point. I really did not know what to do. I start panicking and call everyone who I can think of that would have an idea about what went wrong and what could have caused this.

Everyone I've talked to pointed at user error on the install from the details I was able to communicate over the phone. Of course the shop pointed at the Elite atmosphere turbo from blowing a seal. I was told that I should go after Elite/Precision because they were the ones who "owed" me a new motor. Well after a week of phone calls between them and elite, myself and them, myself and elite, etc we ship the turbos back and wait.

I have some conversations with Chris and he decided that the mess happened there and that he would take care of me since I was the "customer". So as we are waiting for the turbos to come back from being checked and rebuilt from precision he goes ahead and buys a new ford short block, new heads, new injectors, etc to do the job again. In the mean time I hear back from Tadd that precision says the turbos are fine and that the shop has no idea what they are doing. At this point I have nothing to do but wait it out since he was replacing all of the components on his dime. I figured there is no way it could happen again.

3 weeks go by waiting on the turbo to be shipped back and when it comes in it takes them a few days to get it together. I guess there were missing parts and whatever that got shipped back originally with the turbos. Everything gets bolted up and they run it for 30 minutes and tells me everything is fine. At this point he asks me if I'm in a hurry to get the truck back and if I'm not he would take it for more tests to double check everything to make sure there are no issues. After 3 months of waiting I decided it was worth it to not take it unless I was 100% they did it right.

Well the next day he drives it for 30 miles and calls and tells me that one of the injectors is bad. He tows it to his "shop" ( I later find out more about this) and has "one" injector changed (he threw 4 new injectors in the whole bank for some reason but I was told only one was replaced).

A couple days go by while they are waiting for a new injector to come from ford and then I get another call telling me that it while idling it ran away AGAIN!!!!!!!. At this point he starts saying that he has no clue what is causing it and that he has been researching online to find causes (MORE PROOF HE HAS NO ****ING CLUE WHAT HE IS DOING). He cites me some documentation that a ford tech on the dieselstop wrote and to get ahold of a user from the forum for more information. At this point I’m so ****ing pissed that I have no clue what to do. I call around asking the local dealers what they think happened and none of them have ever heard of two run aways like this ever happening. They all point to user install error.
I call Chris back to discuss what we are going to do in the future and he basically tells me that he has more money into my truck than I probally do and that he isn’t going to put any more money into it. I tried to ration with him as that was my last straw but apparantely he has no clue how a business works. He tried saying that he is not liable for it this time because it happened twice and everything was replaced besides the HPFP. It must be the stock HPFP that is causing this to happen (a leak or something).

…. To be continued.
 

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Okay so......

Brought the truck to "House of Diesel" for studs, atmosphere swap, egr delete, and airdog + elite delete install. Everything was cool in the beginning and I dropped the truck off with a $500 deposit. They start working on the truck and everything is going smoothly. 3-4 weeks go by after waiting for some parts to show up and figuring out the elite delete kit and they finally get it all back together.

The day I'm supposed to get it back I get a call saying to come check out the truck..that there was a run away and the bottom is locked. I go over to find my truck full of oil everywhere and coolant and fuel coming from the pan. I am dumbfounded at this point. I really did not know what to do. I start panicking and call everyone who I can think of that would have an idea about what went wrong and what could have caused this.

Everyone I've talked to pointed at user error on the install from the details I was able to communicate over the phone. Of course the shop pointed at the Elite atmosphere turbo from blowing a seal. I was told that I should go after Elite/Precision because they were the ones who "owed" me a new motor. Well after a week of phone calls between them and elite, myself and them, myself and elite, etc we ship the turbos back and wait.

I have some conversations with Chris and he decided that the mess happened there and that he would take care of me since I was the "customer". So as we are waiting for the turbos to come back from being checked and rebuilt from precision he goes ahead and buys a new ford short block, new heads, new injectors, etc to do the job again. In the mean time I hear back from Tadd that precision says the turbos are fine and that the shop has no idea what they are doing. At this point I have nothing to do but wait it out since he was replacing all of the components on his dime. I figured there is no way it could happen again.

3 weeks go by waiting on the turbo to be shipped back and when it comes in it takes them a few days to get it together. I guess there were missing parts and whatever that got shipped back originally with the turbos. Everything gets bolted up and they run it for 30 minutes and tells me everything is fine. At this point he asks me if I'm in a hurry to get the truck back and if I'm not he would take it for more tests to double check everything to make sure there are no issues. After 3 months of waiting I decided it was worth it to not take it unless I was 100% they did it right.

Well the next day he drives it for 30 miles and calls and tells me that one of the injectors is bad. He tows it to his "shop" ( I later find out more about this) and has "one" injector changed (he threw 4 new injectors in the whole bank for some reason but I was told only one was replaced).

A couple days go by while they are waiting for a new injector to come from ford and then I get another call telling me that it while idling it ran away AGAIN!!!!!!!. At this point he starts saying that he has no clue what is causing it and that he has been researching online to find causes (MORE PROOF HE HAS NO ****ING CLUE WHAT HE IS DOING). He cites me some documentation that a ford tech on the dieselstop wrote and to get ahold of a user from the forum for more information. At this point I’m so ****ing pissed that I have no clue what to do. I call around asking the local dealers what they think happened and none of them have ever heard of two run aways like this ever happening. They all point to user install error.
I call Chris back to discuss what we are going to do in the future and he basically tells me that he has more money into my truck than I probally do and that he isn’t going to put any more money into it. I tried to ration with him as that was my last straw but apparantely he has no clue how a business works. He tried saying that he is not liable for it this time because it happened twice and everything was replaced besides the HPFP. It must be the stock HPFP that is causing this to happen (a leak or something).

…. To be continued.

A HPFP causing a run-away/hydro-locking?? Installer error for sure...
 

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After more words between us the conversation starts getting a little heated between the two of us. I wanted him to explain to me how I could bring a perfectly good running truck in for stud install and be given a truck with a ruined short block and how it wasn’t his fault. He had no ****ing answer. He just said that it is aftermarket parts and that is how **** goes. At this point I realize that I’m ****ed and that my truck is never going to get finished by him. I tell him I’m going to pick it up and that I want receipts for **** that he replaced the second time.
I drive up to the shop where the truck was at (apparently his shop) and start talking to the shop foreman. Apparently the shop is his dad’s business that Chris uses for help on diagnosis of trucks when he and his little day care center can’t figure out. I talk with the manager and even though he would not answer anything because I can tell he did not want to get his job threatened in any way that this was not the first truck that “HOUSE OF DIESEL” has ruined. A lot of key details about where the work was done the second time was a bunch of ****. Even the guys at his dad’s shop said that it was not right that I brought him a 100% running truck and I’m given back a truck with a ruined short block.

I know from the research I’ve done on the family and their multiple businesses that they are extremely well off and for them to leave a 22 year old kid who has paid for this truck on his own dime ever since it was purchased on his own is bull****.
My next plan of action is to try and reason with his father to make it right since it really reflects poorly on his business’s name and I’m not going to let it blow over. If it was $2000 dollars I’d say **** it, lesson learned and move on but we are talking about $15,000 to get this fixed and taken care of. Being told to pound sand because you can’t finish a job right is total bull****. If the father doesn’t help out (hopefully it doesn’t work out that way) I’m going to get a lawyer and have the truck torn down by a dealer and have documentation done on every part for failure analysis. In the meantime I’m going to make sure I’m the last customer to ever get ****ed over by these clowns
HOUSE OF DIESEL HAS NO CLUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!!! They take your truck and then do “research” online about diagnosis and point the finger back and forth.First the run away was caused by a bad precision turbo, now it was caused by a HPFP. They have no ****ing clue!! I took my truck to a shop so that I would know it would be done right and if it was wrong they would stand by their work and fix their problems. I’m a machinist by trade and I’m sure I could figure out how to do a stud job without blowing up 2 ****ing motors like these ass hats. Also, they are moving out of California (probably because their reputation was already ruined before me and I didn’t know) and I want to make sure no one in Texas has the same problems that I’ve had either. Every member in Texas stay clear of this place please.
 
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Man, what a story. Good luck and I hope everything works out for you. Sounds to me like you have a solid case that is not loosable. Only thing is them moving out of the state. I hope that doesn't cause you any grief. I believe you could still get your money, just might take longer from state to state. Good lcuk Bud, that really sucks.
 

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Do you know exactly what they did wrong to blow the motor twice? Good luck though man I hope you get things figured out. I would be one pissed off mofo as well.
 

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light him up for every dime you can for lying to you and being a pole smoker about owning up to his mistake

lost wages, down time, parts costs, emotional stress, did you have to pay a family member to "rent or borrow" a vehicle? any and everything you can throw in there

Normally I'd say thats a dick move to add on that stuff...but not at all in this case
 

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light him up for every dime you can for lying to you and being a pole smoker about owning up to his mistake

lost wages, down time, parts costs, emotional stress, did you have to pay a family member to "rent or borrow" a vehicle? any and everything you can throw in there

Normally I'd say thats a dick move to add on that stuff...but not at all in this case

I like your style
 

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Thats a sh!tty deal man! Im sure a well worded letter from your lawyer is hopefully all it'll take to get them to pay up.

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Now as far as the run away is concerned. What could cause this? The only way I can see a new turbo seal failing and leading to a run away is if the return port on the turbo was plugged off causing the turbo to be starved of fresh oil and when the truck ran for a bit the oil cooked/burnt up and failed the seals allowing fresh oil to get pumped into the intake.
 

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Hey good luck buddy. Im gonna follow you on this thread as well. Hope they keep that chit outta Texas. Personally I wouldnt be mad if you got your money back, he pulled the chit again and got dealt with in a non legal manor. lol
 

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Sounds like he has a fuel leak somewhere filling the crankcase up. If you aren't careful torquing the fuel lines down you will have problems. I hope you come out on top of this situation man.
 

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Check to make sure they replaced all the fittings or washers? that need to go in when the fuel lines are taken off. I think that is right. I know Ford recommends replacing these parts every time, don't know if this can cause a run away situation though. Just popped into my head.
 

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