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Message: [QUOTE="TARM, post: 263348, member: 578"] I think if you have enough CP to lift a head with a factory seasoned head gasket whether it be a ARP or H11 you need fire rings period. SO when it comes to someone that will not be breaking the factory seal on the HG I think it really does not make much of a diff but considering the time it takes etc for only a few hundred more why not go with the stronger studs. The mistake many made with ARPs is they tq past the recommended amount trying to get 135-140 tq on them when they should have stopped at 125. [/QUOTE]

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