Ideal Workstock setup?

6.4strokin · Jun 30, 2015

What would be the best workstock setup for a 6.0 mainly fuel and turbo wise? thanks

Derkperk · Jun 30, 2015

Love my RCD 68 vgt and 180/75. Tows and pulls great. Very streetable too.

6.4strokin · Jul 1, 2015

I was thinking 205/100s is that too much on a single hpop?

JGman141 · Jul 1, 2015

Your right at the limit, id go with 75% nozzles instead of 100s. 75's can empty roughly 240 cc of fuel at 2.4 ms, which is more than enough and you can also get better atomization of the fuel. Also have a better chance at maintaining icp with the 75.

6.4strokin · Jul 2, 2015

So with all the supporting mods do you think I can hit low 600s and be workstock legal

KCTurbos · Jul 2, 2015

I can get you set up with a turbo/injector combo deal that can easily put your truck into the 600hp range. You will need the supporting mods you asked about.

Full fuel system
Built tranny
205/75s or 250/100 hybrids
KC68 stage 3 turbo

Send me an email if you want some pricing

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JGman141 · Jul 3, 2015

6.4strokin said:
So with all the supporting mods do you think I can hit low 600s and be workstock legal

Should be able to if the truck is healthy and you maintain icp

KCTurbos said:
I can get you set up with a turbo/injector combo deal that can easily put your truck into the 600hp range. You will need the supporting mods you asked about.

Full fuel system
Built tranny
205/75s or 250/100 hybrids
KC68 stage 3 turbo

Send me an email if you want some pricing

[email protected]

I totally agree with this list but you could also look into 225/75 hybrids, just another option.

KCTurbos · Jul 3, 2015

JGman141 said:
Should be able to if the truck is healthy and you maintain icp

I totally agree with this list but you could also look into 225/75 hybrids, just another option.

Good Idea. I was talking to Warren Diesel this week. They said that they can maintain ICP with 250/100 hybrids... I think I might try those out some day. The hybrid injectors have really come a long way.

borsky · Jul 4, 2015

I don't get why you'd want hybrids cause they maintain icp. They way i understand it the achieve this by having lower injection pressure so wheres the advantage?

KCTurbos · Jul 4, 2015

borsky said:
I don't get why you'd want hybrids cause they maintain icp. They way i understand it the achieve this by having lower injection pressure so wheres the advantage?

I 100% agree. They sacrifice injection pressure to maintain ICP... BUT... guys consistently seem to be able to squeeze out more power out of hybrids. Even though hybrids run at a slightly lower injection pressure... they still maintain a descent pressure, like 24k with hybrids vs 28k with conventionals.

For example: On a stock HPOP the max you can go on conventional injectors is about 600-650hp with a couple of lucky 700hp numbers. But there have been lots of guys with hybrids on stock HPOPs that have made it well into the mid 700s.

Jesse pushed the conventional injectors as far as they could go. Even with all the ICP he needed. He had to switch to hybrids to get more power out of his truck.

lincolnlocker · Jul 4, 2015

borsky said:
I don't get why you'd want hybrids cause they maintain icp. They way i understand it the achieve this by having lower injection pressure so wheres the advantage?

evidently 6.0 hybrids are different from a 7.3s? its the opposite for us.. hybrids are a shorter stroke so its easier to maintain and hold icp... im trying to learn stuff about the 6.0s as i have never cared to before..

KCTurbos said:
I 100% agree. They sacrifice injection pressure to maintain ICP... BUT... guys consistently seem to be able to squeeze out more power out of hybrids. Even though hybrids run at a slightly lower injection pressure... they still maintain a descent pressure, like 24k with hybrids vs 28k with conventionals.

For example: On a stock HPOP the max you can go on conventional injectors is about 600-650hp with a couple of lucky 700hp numbers. But there have been lots of guys with hybrids on stock HPOPs that have made it well into the mid 700s.

Jesse pushed the conventional injectors as far as they could go. Even with all the ICP he needed. He had to switch to hybrids to get more power out of his truck.

what i said above was for you too.
live life full throttle

KCTurbos · Jul 4, 2015

lincolnlocker said:
evidently 6.0 hybrids are different from a 7.3s? its the opposite for us.. hybrids are a shorter stroke so its easier to maintain and hold icp... im trying to learn stuff about the 6.0s as i have never cared to before..

what i said above was for you too.
live life full throttle

Yep. They are basically the same thing on a 6.0. Larger bore, shorter stroke (as opposed to conventional). Helps to maintain ICP better but you will sacrifice injection pressure.

lincolnlocker · Jul 4, 2015

KCTurbos said:
Yep. They are basically the same thing on a 6.0. Larger bore, shorter stroke (as opposed to conventional). Helps to maintain ICP better but you will sacrifice injection pressure.

how does that sacrifice inj psi? if you maintain icp then inj psi shouldn't drop. bigger nozzles i could see losing some atomization of fuel but thats it..

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hucorey · Jul 4, 2015

Bore size on the intensifier.

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lincolnlocker · Jul 4, 2015

ok, you guys are going off final psi at the nozzle.. like close to 30k psi? aren't you guys running over 4k icp? kinda sorta averages out id think.. if you cant maintain icp on a normal injector then your pressure at the nozzle is less.. so if you can run higher and maintain higher with hybrids then it should be better..

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swinky · Jul 4, 2015

Why do you guys think hybrids like spray so much?

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TooMuch03 · Jul 4, 2015

swinky said:
Why do you guys think hybrids like spray so much?

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Lots of fuel with hybrids, and the poorer atomization doesn't matter when you use nitrous since there is less need for good mixing of the fuel/air.

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borsky · Jul 4, 2015

correct me if I'm wrong but you change the pressure ratio. on a 6.0L conventional you put 4000psi in and times that by 7 to get 28000 psi give or take. when u run hybrid you times it by lets say 5 and get 20000 psi out the nozzles

KCTurbos · Jul 4, 2015

^^^ What He Said

lincolnlocker said:
how does that sacrifice inj psi? if you maintain icp then inj psi shouldn't drop. bigger nozzles i could see losing some atomization of fuel but thats it..

live life full throttle

Your High Pressure Oil does not change... but your fuel injection pressure does change. Our HPO system works around 4000 psi at full throttle... but the fuel is actually being injected around 28000psi through the injector. This is due to the fuel intensifier piston. But when you change over to hybrids even at 4000psi of HPO your fuel injection pressure will only be around 24000psi because you changed the fuel intensifier piston to make the injector into a hybrid. Hope that makes sense.

swinky · Jul 4, 2015

TooMuch03 said:
Lots of fuel with hybrids, and the poorer atomization doesn't matter when you use nitrous since there is less need for good mixing of the fuel/air.

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Yuhpp, I was saying it sarcastically. Well put.

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