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Message: [QUOTE="Six7Lyfe, post: 1323310, member: 21500"] I called them and they said it is a race tuner, why they offer the 500$ H&S upgrade that requires the VIN and tuner serial number I'm not sure. I should be good, thanks for the input. I am kind of interested in a custom MPG tune when I'm not towing, its a F450 4x4 and it never sees over 10mpg without a trailer. Mostly doing the ******s for the reliability. I cant complain so far, lift pump and alternator have been the only failures. Emission system has been flawless, i think all the towing provides plenty of heat to keep the *** cleaned but its only a matter of time. [/QUOTE]

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