Need advice...want to do more upgrades.

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I have an 08 F-350. It has cold air intake, mini-maxx with the hd300 update, 5 inch down pipe back exhaust with no muffler, egr delete with intake elbow done to it. The truck has a 3 inch lift and different tires and rims. I would like to do some more work, but dont know which to buy first. I would like to do the airdog 2 pump. Is this a good idea? Is this an easy install? Also, how hard are head studs to do without taking the cab off? How much boost can I run before I will need studs? I was thinking about turbos? Or are the batmowheels a better option for a daily driver? I would also like to do the steed speed manifolds and matching up-pipes! Are these good things to look into? Should I spend my money elsewhere? How much power can I run before the tranny is gonna need help? A detroit locker for the rear end is going to be happening soon, along with traction bars and possibly the River City 4 link kit for the front.
 

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RCD four link for sure. I love mine. Ride is ten times better then stock.
 

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What are your goals and how far are you willing to go? Studs is a good way to go...
Instead of the batmo I'd do the upgraded atmosphere turbo. With studs and a nicely built tranny you should have a stout running truck, maybe an intake manifold but you should be good with what you got (but still a worth while upgrade IMHO).
Everything is possible cab on given sacrificing down time on your truck (a solid weekend). If you have means to a lift and a mechanically compitent buddy, you can get a lot of that stuff done in one day and driving it the next.
Depending on the bank roll you can look into upgrading to more fuel and a variety of some pavement pounding turbo upgrades.
 

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What are your goals and how far are you willing to go? Studs is a good way to go...
Instead of the batmo I'd do the upgraded atmosphere turbo. With studs and a nicely built tranny you should have a stout running truck, maybe an intake manifold but you should be good with what you got (but still a worth while upgrade IMHO).
Everything is possible cab on given sacrificing down time on your truck (a solid weekend). If you have means to a lift and a mechanically compitent buddy, you can get a lot of that stuff done in one day and driving it the next.
Depending on the bank roll you can look into upgrading to more fuel and a variety of some pavement pounding turbo upgrades.


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all out power? realiability, how it will be used? Budget?

I definitely agree with the 71 over the batmowheels.
 

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Sharp looking super cab long box. Mine is going in for head studs soon amd we are gonna do some machine work and valve seats while its apart. Just gotta look at what you wanna do with the truck.
 

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I would recommend port work (intake & heads my personal preference is the Soot Powered ones), exhaust manifolds (no remorse or steed speed), and a good set of up-pipes. Ceramic coat the exhaust manifolds, uppipes, and part of your down pipe along with ex side of the turbos. Then wrap them with header wrap (up-pipes, manifolds).

Turbo: what is your final goal

Studs: Never hurts, while doing this I would recommend an egr delete

Fuel: What is your final goal

Suspension: PMF is my choice

Tranny: Warren Diesel Transmission

Intercooler: Spearco

Traction: Tru-trac

Pm me if you need any pricing
 

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My truck is a daily driver. I would like to hook it to a sled a couple times here and there when I feel like it. But I use it to drive around or tow my gooseneck with truck puller on board. The goal is to just increase power some and keep it reliable. The truck makes good power, I just would like a little more. But I dont want to make too much power that I will be wrecking things. I have an egr delete on the truck with the intake elbow. I just ordered the flo-pro cac pipe as well and should be installing it early next week. Why should I not buy the steed speed manifolds? The final goal is to just have a wicked street truck that can blow away most anything on the road, but also be a reliable daily driver at 4 in the morning and two my truck puller around the state if need be. Id like to look into the airdog 2 if it is necessary. Are valve springs and push rods a good idea if I will have the covers off for studs anyway? At what point should I look into nozzles or larger injectors? Are the ported fuel rails an easy install? I guess I have a lot of things id love to do, just going about it slow.
 

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best bang for the buck IMO at this point is tow-power billet 71 mm atmospheric turbo upgrade. that will put you near the limit of stock head bolts & valve springs by itself. could get away with stock springs if you add a wastegate. 4" downpipe would also be useful at this point, and inexpensive. I think you'd have to plan on injectors & larger injection pump to justify airdog II, or at least have a bad stock pump. I have similar thoughts for the steed speed manifolds. They might give you a bit of a gain, but money could be spent better making/keeping things reliable at your current power level. I'd definitely do a tranny before I worried about higher flowing exhaust manifolds from a performance perspective. Intake manifold will help too, but it's a big pain to do cab down. - much worse than turbos.
 

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How far can I push my truck before I should look into wastegating it? And is the Hot Damn 300 tune too much for a stock tranny on a 6.4?
 

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How far can I push my truck before I should look into wastegating it? And is the Hot Damn 300 tune too much for a stock tranny on a 6.4?

IMO on stock fuel you don't need a WG, especially if you are going to upgrade the up pipes and valvetrain. Since reliability is a concern, studs and tranny are definitely needed. I agree, the 71 will give you the most bang for the buck. Since you tow and want to sled pull, traction bars are highly recommended. Also since you plan on sled pulling, I would strongly consider a 3 or 4 link suspension. If your budget permits, an intake and exhaust manny would be a nice addition. With stock injectors, I would NOT do ported rails. I haven't heard of anyone yet who doesn't have at least some surging issues with them on stock fuel and I know several people who have later removed them due to the surging issues.
 

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I am thinking about ordering the tranny re-build kit from Elite and then do new solenoids and maybe the shift kit. While I have it apart should I invest in a converter? Has anyone done there head studs themselves with the cab on? How hard is it? Maybe for the fact that this truck is more so a daily driver than a truck puller, I will keep the power levels lower for now until I decide to convert it over. What do you guys think of my truck with a stack out the hood as a 2.6 or a 3.0 puller? Then maybe a 2012 F-350 to haul it around. Hmmm, if only I had the money.
 

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IMO on stock fuel you don't need a WG, especially if you are going to upgrade the up pipes and valvetrain. Since reliability is a concern, studs and tranny are definitely needed. I agree, the 71 will give you the most bang for the buck. Since you tow and want to sled pull, traction bars are highly recommended. Also since you plan on sled pulling, I would strongly consider a 3 or 4 link suspension. If your budget permits, an intake and exhaust manny would be a nice addition. With stock injectors, I would NOT do ported rails. I haven't heard of anyone yet who doesn't have at least some surging issues with them on stock fuel and I know several people who have later removed them due to the surging issues.

With more time behind the wheel with my current setup, I am starting to question my believes on WGs. I think a WG may be a very worthy investment (especially if you are doing any kind of competitions) especially if you leave the valvetrain, exh. manny, and up pipes stock. My EBPs with the H&S 300 HD tune are becoming more and more of an issue at WOT in the higher RPM/Boost range. I am finding I have to let off more and more due to high EBPs. I assume that is because of the warmer temps of summer now, but IDK for sure. I am still hoping custom tunes will eliminate this, but I believe JD has been flirting around 70 at the drag strip with Gear Head's race tune - of course, he is at 6000ft. Finally, if you don't floor it and if you don't mind monitoring EBPs when at WOT, you could get away without one. I didn't think I would mind having to monitor EBPs all the time when at WOP and I didn't think I would mind letting off when they EBPs get too high, but it is now getting kind of annoying.
 

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