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Message: [QUOTE="TooMuch03, post: 457561, member: 5993"] Honestly, this response puzzles me. I am not sure if you are disagreeing with me, or just agreeing in a totally weird way. The norm has been that most trucks with stock injectors only get to 450 rwhp and that is true. Most truck with stock injectors and turbo are close to 450 hp or even less. Obviously, turbo and/or injector upgrades are needed to surpass 450. Most trucks with stock sticks still use the stock turbo, so my statement that Chris's truck makes more power than most with stock sticks is 100% true, note I said most not all. I never said or implied that it is special or a freak so there is really nothing to disagree with. Both you and Chris have trucks that run great, probably because you take good care of them, and I commend you for that. [/QUOTE]

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